Are you really comparing a 19, 15,13 year payscale to that of a 5 year payscale? Please draw up some common sense. Really, to each his own, but if you going to compare payscales......please compare something that is truely comparable, like third year RJ pay vs. third year 747 pay. A third year RJ guy will never see what a third year 747 guy gets.

That's not the point the point is that the 747 pay scale should NOT top out at 5 years also that this is a bottom feeder payscale that is lowering the bar... esp. when compared to other 747 pay scales and finally that a 747 payscale should NEVER TOP OUT LOWER than an RJ pay scale does...

Again....please use some sense here.......I believe that you are smarter than you come off here on this forum. I don't believe that there is a guy on the property at Focus that has been there for more than three years, hence the reason for the 5 year pay scale. If, at some point, if in the next few years there are 6 or 7 year guys at Focus still on a five year payscale, then you can pop off with your rhetoric. By the way I believe your RJ replacing mainline flying is what started "lowering the bar" in regards to airline pay rates..........not the supplementals.:eek:

Wow mrvmo... well first off yes I am probably a lot smarter than you would guess... unless you're guessing me as some sort of genius then it's a different story... But anyway do some research dude. First Focus Air is a brand new company 1 year old I believe so it is impossible for someone to have been there for three years...and even if they had usually contact negotiations occur in 4 year cycles so they would hit the top anyway... As for regionals lowering the bar well yes there are some but not all and btw there have always been regionals odds are there will always be regionals. If the regionals needed to be mainline a/c then the unions should have negotiated pay rates all the way down to 1900's and metros back in the day to keep the regionals from comming into existance.. But simple fact of the matter regionals have been here since before I was born and will probably be here after I kick the bucket.... So dont tell me about steeling flying tell the FUKING UNION...(I would be happy to fill my current seat as a member of a mainline seniority list) As for apples to apples then.... 1st year NWA 744CA $132,192 five year $136,272 Top pay rate 12 years $144,432; 1st year UAL 744CA 131,820, five year UAL 744CA $134,940 top 744CA $141,960.... Back to Focus Air 1st year 742 CA $70,560 5th year $91,440 and after that top pay oops there is nothing else..... There again bottom feeder lowering the bar... Now mrvmo I realize that you are new to this forum (currently showing 7 posts) and haven't shown any indication of position of qualifications (so by your statements I'm guessing the answer is not much... probably a college student, PPL with a big mouth) but please.... please... please... for the love of God get a clue... and think before you open your pie hole next time.... Anyway I have to go back to work soon so gone for while....

I want to see what a 70K a year 747 scumbag looks like. Anybody got a sketch? If only people would have some dignity. 70K to fly a 747, unbelievable. To those trying to better their company now, I've got a better idea, how bout you quit and go to a place that's already acceptable.

I guess I was wrong!!! Now 8 posts must give me a LITTLE more merit?

Thanks for the info there spacemankey.
No, I was not getting impatient. There had been so many new threads started that my question had ben pushed to the second page. I thought that you had probably missed it since you had posted at least a half a dozen times and hadn't responded.

"Now mrvmo I realize that you are new to this forum (currently showing 7 posts) and haven't shown any indication of position of qualifications (so by your statements I'm guessing the answer is not much... probably a college student, PPL with a big mouth) but please..."

Your guessing is way off the mark here. I know Mrvmo and he is more than qualified to be here and post.

Mrvmo, congrates on the new job. Let us know what equipment you will be on.

Just to set the record straight.. The initial cadre at FA came in on 3rd year pay so many will be hitting 5 year pay in the spring. There is no way possible u can compare a 17 year RJ Capt to a 5 year "startup" payscale. Compare 1 through 5th with Kalitta, Evergreen, Southern, TWinds, Cargo360, Polar, Atlas. I would gather that FA is better than all except Atlas. I can almost guarantee u when they do publish a 17 year payscale it will be well above 17 year RJ pay but since they are only at year two with the majority of the crewmembers you may have to wait awhile. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!DMF.

Bottom line.... still bottom feeder...

An rj pilot calling someone esle a bottom feeder, now that's funny.