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CE750 12-23-2006 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by Thedude (Post 77223)
I love how some of the RJ newbies like calling guys at the supplementals names and somehow coming to the conclusion that we are lowering the bar.

Although the international supplementals' might not be what life is like at the majors, it still beats being at the commuters. I'll take my 2 weeks off, more catering than I could possibly eat, flying one leg every 3 days, collecting my hotel and airline points, and my per diem check that is larger than their monthly pay check and continue to quitely keep my secret while they fly the 8+ legs a day with min rest.

I just have to give that a big AMEN!

Plus, with cargo on track to quadruple in the next 20 years, I somehow don't think the future of ACMI's or any other cargo operations is in much jeopardy and I would bet that the pay scale will go up along with the demand for the work over time.

EK Birdcage 12-30-2006 12:06 AM

This thread cracks me up..

Why don't you guys all come over here, and throw sand at each other to solve this...

My point of veiw, time off is king, especially if it is in a "First-World country".. I had fun at the regionals, had fun at a low-cost, and now having fun kicking in the sand box and flying all over the world.. Most jobs in this business, assuming they are safe, can be made descent with a descent attitude and a dismissal of the grass is always greener, mine's bigger then yours and my dad from AA can kick your UAL dad's ass syndrom..

Have fun, and enjoy every step... Sitting in a 1900, all I wanted was to be in a jet.. Sitting in a jet, I wanted a bigger one, and then to be a Captain.. As a 737 domestic Capt, I wanted International.. Now I look at a 1900 on the ramp from the window of the 777 and think, I bet that guys having fun... It is all relative, and like age, we seem to come full circle in our flying careers too..

cheers
EKBC

FliFast 12-30-2006 01:31 PM

Well Said DC8,

Long Live Sticky Fingers Too !!!!

/s/ Bottom Feeder 747 Capt

Sideshow Bob 12-30-2006 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by FliFast (Post 97329)
Well Said DC8,

Long Live Sticky Fingers Too !!!!

/s/ Bottom Feeder 747 Capt

FWIW:

The other day in ANC a Cargo 360 CPT said they are on the cusp of buying the Focus 747's. Nothing quite like non-sched takeover rumors. Except for big operator rumors.;)

dudewannabe 12-30-2006 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by JollyF15 (Post 72015)
Do you guys really think that flying a 747, making just over 100K a year, and working 19 days a freaking month is a good deal? YGBSM--right?

If the other option is to fly with a regional carrier with mostly prima donnas doing 8 legs a day making 19 bucks/hour with layover in places like Texarkana, then yes, it's a great deal!!

dutch747 12-31-2006 08:19 AM

Nicely put Birdcage. Couldn't agree more. When i was flying into Hawaii I always wished I was a 737 pilot for Aloha flying the visual into Kaui or something.

As for the rumor from Cargo 360... I am laughing hard at that one.

fogrunner 12-31-2006 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by dutch747 (Post 97564)
Nicely put Birdcage. Couldn't agree more. When i was flying into Hawaii I always wished I was a 737 pilot for Aloha flying the visual into Kaui or something.

As for the rumor from Cargo 360... I am laughing hard at that one.

I wanted to apologize Dutch. I did not mean to jump all over you about 360. I just get a little fed up when certain individuals proclaim what a wonderful deal they have and really when it boils down to it, it is rather sub par. It also puts pressure on the pilot groups at other ACMI carriers, when certain individuals are willing to accept working conditions that are not the norm and yet again lower the bar still further.

FliFast 12-31-2006 04:47 PM

$87K as a new hire 747 Capt vs going back to my old, commuter days when I made 15K as a new hire F/O on the Shorts 330....

My regards to anyone that's still flying the Winnebaggo.

Why on Earth would Cargo 360 want to buy Focus's 747s...unless they plan on opening up a maint repair station.

fogrunner 12-31-2006 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by FliFast (Post 97698)
$87K as a new hire 747 Capt vs going back to my old, commuter days when I made 15K as a new hire F/O on the Shorts 330....

My regards to anyone that's still flying the Winnebaggo.

Why on Earth would Cargo 360 want to buy Focus's 747s...unless they plan on opening up a maint repair station.

You didn't hear? they are also buying Gemini......and (insert ACMI company)



Quote:
Originally Posted by bentherdunit
I'll wait until after we buy you and your my FO.

Cheers

dutch747 01-01-2007 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by fogrunner (Post 97582)
I wanted to apologize Dutch. I did not mean to jump all over you about 360. I just get a little fed up when certain individuals proclaim what a wonderful deal they have and really when it boils down to it, it is rather sub par. It also puts pressure on the pilot groups at other ACMI carriers, when certain individuals are willing to accept working conditions that are not the norm and yet again lower the bar still further.

No apology necessary. I actually agree with you 100%. Keep soundin off about this because it seems like a lot of people don't get it.


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