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Old 05-11-2012 | 10:58 AM
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Ain't no unions in red China....
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Old 05-11-2012 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by skeebo2
"I have no idea what point you are trying to make

I agree with MD11Phlyr"


My point our Union has not won a single arbitration. So we are no better off with them or without. They collect our $ with no positive results

Also tired of step up and volunteer issue. How do you know I am not now or have ever been a union worker? How do you know that I don't spend all my free time caring for cancer patients?


Just like a union thug if we dont agree say shut up 'and quit your *****ing"
Keep attacking me and not my debate


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Not sure who p!ssed in your Wheaties, but here's the deal. The old adage, "if your not part of the solution......."

So, I'll ask again. What's YOUR solution? I hear you complaining, but I don't hear your answer to the problem. Quit the union? Yeah, that'll help.
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Old 05-11-2012 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Huck
Ain't no unions in red China....
And yet somehow they have managed to average 10% growth in GDP for 30 years.
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Old 05-11-2012 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
And yet somehow they have managed to average 10% growth in GDP for 30 years.
Mostly at the expense of the American Worker.
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Old 05-11-2012 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
Mostly at the expense of the American Worker.
No that was the Japanese and the Koreans, the Commies are stealing jobs from them.
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Old 05-11-2012 | 03:29 PM
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A lot of us have already "spoken to your REP" and "write your Rep" only to hear DT say in his perfect Cockney, "Mgmt can do that" over and over and over again. And the rep will tell you, well it's in the contract, go read the contract. Skeebo speaks the truth.
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Old 05-11-2012 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Malkovich
A lot of us have already "spoken to your REP" and "write your Rep" only to hear DT say in his perfect Cockney, "Mgmt can do that" over and over and over again. And the rep will tell you, well it's in the contract, go read the contract. Skeebo speaks the truth.
And that would be better or different without a contract how?
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Old 05-11-2012 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by skeebo2

So if you want to quit the union or are a non member your a freeloader? What are the dues payers getting?

Remember not disagree with the neo-fascist SS you'll get purged like the gang of three. Reminds me of RED CHINA another captive audience.
If you want to quit the union, I'd suggest that you just go ahead and quit. I'm sure you really don't need this stinkin' job anyway. As for being a non-member, again, feel free. No one will think you a freeloader, because by contract, you still have to pay your maintenance fee. Now, as for what the dues payers are getting, I'd suggest that among benefits such as the "B" fund, and a top of the line pay scale, the vast majority of us are getting protection. Protection from being fired for absolutely no reason, or perhaps a reason like: "you've got blue eyes and we have decided we don't want blue eyed pilots working here"; or "sorry, but you missed check-in by 2 minutes, and we can't have that, so you're fired." Stuff like that. In Tennessee, they can fire you for whatever reason they want. In fact, they don't even have to tell you why you were fired. Once unionized, the employee has a much enhanced protection system, not just within the contract, but within both federal as well as state laws.

But again, if the union has treated you that badly, I'd suggest you resign. That will surely show them. Of course, you could buck tradition and attempt to work within the confines of the union, for the betterment of the group, but I know that would be asking too much. Especially when it's so much easier to sling mud, while bitc*!ng and moaning.

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Old 05-11-2012 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by skeebo2
"I have no idea what point you are trying to make

I agree with MD11Phlyr"


My point our Union has not won a single arbitration. So we are no better off with them or without. They collect our $ with no positive results

Also tired of step up and volunteer issue. How do you know I am not now or have ever been a union worker? How do you know that I don't spend all my free time caring for cancer patients?


Just like a union thug if we dont agree say shut up 'and quit your *****ing"
Keep attacking me and not my debate

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Since you are so smart why don't you ask any other employee at FedEx how their pension is? Ask them how great that cash balance plan is compared to what they used to have before the company took it.
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Old 05-11-2012 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by skeebo2
Ok like Winston Churchill said, I paraphrase: " Madame I am indeed drunk. But in the morning I will awake sober. However when you wake you will still be ugly."

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How about, "How many pilots, members or not, have lost their jobs after the final appeal process, for anything other than gross financial misconduct or drug use?"

And while I may be ugly in the morning, at least I'm not a total Richard Cranium.
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