UPS Ground School Instructor
 

Can anyone give me an idea what the job would be like? Its for the 757 program. I'm with FlightSafety right now.

Thanks,


AWACS

If you have any hatred or disgust with your current employer, take that times 100 and you would still not even be close to what you would feel like if you were to go to work for UPS.

I do not know who would pay more but at Flight Safety at least you come into contact with different people from fortune 500 companies. Some of them may even like their job which makes your job easier. Also you never know what future opportunities may present themselves from class to class at FS. At UPS the story is written, you will not have any input and you would be surrounded by gloom and doom.

See the big picture yet?

Stick with Flight Safety.

Probably not that different from Flight Safety. Frontseat is a prima dona who left a six figure job for UPS and was furloughed. Luckily for him the airline world is seniority based and not merit. His woe is me attitude is not indicative of the typical pilot at UPS. Most of us while being disappointed in the furlough like our jobs and each other.

FlightSafety is a company that spends millions on accommodations to achieve a high level of customer experience. UPS will give you a vending machine and crap on your input. You are nothing but a cost center for this company and never will be anything more.

Not entirely true. But you are an expert on my life so I guess you are correct in your own mind. If you want to know the truth then call me. I am sure you can find my number. I am waiting for your call.

Actually being a part 91 corporate pilot is all merit based. I flew the best planes that the industry has to offer as a captain and can do it again with just a couple of phone calls. If UPS were merit based I would not be commuting to ANC.

I am sure the 109 were just "disappointed" I am sure that all the pilots who had to move and downgraded and left in ANC were just "disappointed"

The 88 hires were just "disappointed" in how UPS treated them and still do....

I do not mind the job but if I were at FS looking to jump ship it would not be for UPS. I would hate to see a fellow corporate guy make the same mistake I did.

So when does your promotion into management take effect ?

I agree with Frontseat and I am not furloughed. Stay away from ups, morale sucks and the leadership is terrible.

If we HAD leadership, I would agree with you. :rolleyes: We have some flight qualified supervisors, NOT leaders. After 22 years I could count on one hand the number of "leaders" we have had, and they have either retired in disgust or were pushed out. Definitely not a career enhancing move to display any semblance of leadership here.

Other than that - I have to agree with you and Frontseat completely about choosing this place. It is what it is, more akin to a contract job than a traditional employment.:rolleyes:

on the other hand....
I've seen ground school instructors with private pilot licenses become jet captains in just a few years. Not saying that is a good thing, but it happens. Life is different in the nurp world and if you go in with your eyes open you may like it.

front seat has the more accurate view.

Not going
 

After talking to my wife, she asked me this question: "would you like to work close to home and family, but have to hate your work?" I said no.

We are going to wait it out. I like my job, and I am up for a small promotion (TCE: like a check airman), and the people are great. I just wanted to work close to home.


Thanks,


AWACS

Front Seat,

You are commuting to ANC by choice. Even the most recent recalls can hold ONT or SDF now. If the commute is that bad, perhaps you should update your system bid. Sounds to me like you didn't do your homework before coming to UPS. This wasn't a workers paradise before and it certainly isn't now. You show up, work, go home and collect your paycheck. UPS never has cared about its' pilots and probably never will. If you thought that you signed up for something different, you clearly didn't actually talk to any UPS pilots about life here.