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Old 06-08-2012, 08:05 AM
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Can anyone give me an idea what the job would be like? Its for the 757 program. I'm with FlightSafety right now.

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Can anyone give me an idea what the job would be like? Its for the 757 program. I'm with FlightSafety right now.

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Probably not that different from Flight Safety. Frontseat is a prima dona who left a six figure job for UPS and was furloughed. Luckily for him the airline world is seniority based and not merit. His woe is me attitude is not indicative of the typical pilot at UPS. Most of us while being disappointed in the furlough like our jobs and each other.
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I agree with Frontseat and I am not furloughed. Stay away from ups, morale sucks and the leadership is terrible.
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Old 06-08-2012, 06:31 PM
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I agree with Frontseat and I am not furloughed. Stay away from ups, morale sucks and the leadership is terrible.
If we HAD leadership, I would agree with you. We have some flight qualified supervisors, NOT leaders. After 22 years I could count on one hand the number of "leaders" we have had, and they have either retired in disgust or were pushed out. Definitely not a career enhancing move to display any semblance of leadership here.

Other than that - I have to agree with you and Frontseat completely about choosing this place. It is what it is, more akin to a contract job than a traditional employment.
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on the other hand....
I've seen ground school instructors with private pilot licenses become jet captains in just a few years. Not saying that is a good thing, but it happens. Life is different in the nurp world and if you go in with your eyes open you may like it.
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front seat has the more accurate view.
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Old 06-09-2012, 06:32 AM
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After talking to my wife, she asked me this question: "would you like to work close to home and family, but have to hate your work?" I said no.

We are going to wait it out. I like my job, and I am up for a small promotion (TCE: like a check airman), and the people are great. I just wanted to work close to home.


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Front Seat,

You are commuting to ANC by choice. Even the most recent recalls can hold ONT or SDF now. If the commute is that bad, perhaps you should update your system bid. Sounds to me like you didn't do your homework before coming to UPS. This wasn't a workers paradise before and it certainly isn't now. You show up, work, go home and collect your paycheck. UPS never has cared about its' pilots and probably never will. If you thought that you signed up for something different, you clearly didn't actually talk to any UPS pilots about life here.
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After talking to my wife, she asked me this question: "would you like to work close to home and family, but have to hate your work?" I said no.

We are going to wait it out. I like my job, and I am up for a small promotion (TCE: like a check airman), and the people are great. I just wanted to work close to home.


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As a customer, I'm always impressed with the quality of the instructors FSI has on board. I've always been well cared for. Good luck with your decision.
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Plus with the flying getting smaller in ANC there is a good chance of getting displaced and get a paid move to the lower 48. Then if displaced from the next base another paid move. You have to play the 121 game a little.
True, but as the game goes ... expect the music to stop and be stuck in your seat indefinitely. Or as long as contract negotiations last. I am sure the plan is to leave some number on furlough as hostages.

Poor AWACS walked into a UPS bashing party with his simple question. One important thing to mention that has no one else has said ... There is no two-way movement from management to line pilot and back again. So if you were to take a position instructing ground school, it is safe to say that you will never be able to transfer onto the union seniority list. In other words, do not think that a training center position could lead to a spot flying a line on our seniority list (unlike Fedex and others)

Back to the UPS hate fest !



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