Well considering that many of us find ALL your posts abusive and disrespectful... he would then be in fine company.

 

This being the reason why our industry is in the toilet. Guys selling their souls to the devil and busting their ass for 25k a year. The airline industry will never get better as long as guys have your attitude.

 

Shaggy--You hit the lottery with your military career and then by being hired into $160 per hour first airline job. Not everyone is as lucky as you/us.

HotMama--I'd love to know your career path. I'm sure you didn't leapfrog some folks by being a "hotMAMA"!! You shouldnt be telling someone to pay their dues.

 

I guess you can say I was lucky, I'd rather say the industry as a whole has slid into the toilet. UPS or FedEx is not a great job, its the fact that all other airlines have ended up in the toilet. As long as guys willing to do this job for pennies on the dollar we are all doomed. If I was starting out and had to work six days a week busting my ass for 25k a year I would find something else to do with my time.

 

Well, for better or worse this is life starting out on the civilian side. And I would say that the reason I'm make what I make and have the schedule I have is UPS's schedule and what they pay their contractors. I believe FedEx feeders do a lot better than us.I could take my current skill set back to AK and triple my income but then I'd never get out of a Navajo or Caravan in the bush.

That said, we've got Metro guys who make quite a bit more and have been around a while because they get to be home every day.

In any case, pay and schedule aside I'm really enjoying the flying I'm doing now and in any case it's not forever. Kinda like UPS first year pay.....

 

Hang in there TallFlyer....I did your type of flying too, I was a civilian guy. Hold your head Hi and have a good attitude and better things will come your way. All the best

 

"Tell you what, any UPS guy (even a current furlough) that wants to trade me his spot on the seniority list for my Navajo gig on the UPS DEN ramp please feel free to get in touch."


I am sure their is some private pilot or cubical worker somewhere who thinks you have it great. I mean you probably only fly work half of the day flying 4-5 hours while they work 8 hours a day.

Yep most likely the UPS guy has a better job then you do. Most likely that same guy has been where you are today.

What I don't get is why you would find it amusing that those folks are trying to make their and perhaps your future position better.

To be blunt your perspective is not new, you are not unique. Almost every pilot flying professionally has already made the sacrifices that you are starting to accomplishing They have gained experience and knowledge over the years to decades that well you don't have. Seniority and money won't make you happy in this life hence some complain. But remember those complainers have been where you are, you havn't been where they are.

 

As a poolie (hmm 5 years now?) I should just stay at Delta?

 

The pool is probably nonexistent. At the most, expect another interview in one of the first groups ... whenever that may be ?!?!

As for staying at DAL, it really depends on how old you are ...

30's ... might leave for UPS
40's ... think very carefully, probably never make Captain at UPS
50's ... probably stay

 

That's true, but I work from 0445 to 0800 and 1800 to 2045. That gets old real quick, although I do enjoy the flying a lot.

Actualy, I believe what I said was:
Th amusing part to me is how a lot of guys on here make it sound like the Bataan Death March on a regular basis.

Exactly my point. Go to work, do your job, come home. Drink a beer, enjoy your time off, and be at least a little grateful that you make a lot of money and have way more time off than the average American.

Also true, which is why I spend probably too much time here, at PPW, JC, etc, in an effort to be well educated about my chosen craft. Overall, I like what I see.