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Planning the Party
I've begun planning now for my GOMS party on 12/13/12.
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
(Post 1211555)
Sounds like a little jealousy here, which I don't understand at all. If a new-hire gets into the 777, it's because someone else, whose already on the property, didn't want it.
JJ When things suck real bad you can't give it to anyone but a newhire. Widebody seats with the most newhires suck the most. We all wish things didn't suck as much as they do. |
Originally Posted by MeXC
(Post 1211669)
MG2, a little sensitive? I'm sincerely interested in why an FO who bids this or gets hired into this seat is suddenly a "tool", or has a better chance to get the seat if he/she is a "tool".
Stirring the pot? Nope. I think it's absurd that because of a few, a whole segment of our 'group' is referred to negatively...at least that's the way it seems. And I counter your mad face with this::) If I put a flower next to the screwdriver my toolbox, I don't stop calling it a toolbox. |
Originally Posted by Tractor Bob
(Post 1211698)
Conventional thoughts about the 777 from my northern tier crew base was the perception that a large number of less-than-desirable-to-fly-with crew members (aka "Tools") congregated on the 777. Thus the heavy concentration of "tools" in one place (aka "Tool Box").
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There are "tools" in both (all 3) seats of every fleet here at FDX (you all know it's true) - the 777 left seat variety have just been "in the news" here on APC most recently
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
(Post 1211826)
If I put a flower next to the screwdriver my toolbox, I don't stop calling it a toolbox.
Brilliant, SD |
I flew with the tools on the Mighty Dog.
I fly with them on Bigfoot. SSDP - same stuff different plane |
I believe what we are witnessing is a sea change in culture. When we acquired the 777 it initially attracted quite a few very senior folks who hadn't been (if ever) OUTCONUS in a very long time. Consequently quite a few gaffes were made by said group resulting in humorous helmet fires in the left seat. In addition this same cadre came from an era when they did pretty much as they pleased, FAR's, CRM and Jumpseaters not withstanding for a very long time. Now, with these "Gents" fairly concentrated in their seat, a reputation, event by event has emerged. It didn't happen in a vacume, nor was it "made up". As previously posted, it is just being illuminated in one concentrated area, with the hope of changing, via peer pressure, a wrong culture.
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Originally Posted by AFW_MD11
(Post 1211956)
There are "tools" in both (all 3) seats of every fleet here at FDX (you all know it's true) - the 777 left seat variety have just been "in the news" here on APC most recently
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Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT
(Post 1212006)
I believe what we are witnessing is a sea change in culture. When we acquired the 777 it initially attracted quite a few very senior folks who hadn't been (if ever) OUTCONUS in a very long time. Consequently quite a few gaffes were made by said group resulting in humorous helmet fires in the left seat. In addition this same cadre came from an era when they did pretty much as they pleased, FAR's, CRM and Jumpseaters not withstanding for a very long time. Now, with these "Gents" fairly concentrated in their seat, a reputation, event by event has emerged. It didn't happen in a vacume, nor was it "made up". As previously posted, it is just being illuminated in one concentrated area, with the hope of changing, via peer pressure, a wrong culture.
MG2 |
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