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MeXC 06-14-2012 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by MacGuy2 (Post 1212093)
I'm sort of curious what "events" have occurred in the 777 aside from several jumpseat issues over the past several years. You seem to be 'all knowledgeable' on 777 gaffes.

MG2

I thought it was pot-stirring and hurt unity to ask questions about the reputation of the 777? :)

MacGuy2 06-14-2012 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by MeXC (Post 1212174)
I thought it was pot-stirring and hurt unity to ask questions about the reputation of the 777? :)

MeXC, I really don't mean to make a big issue out of this, but it just seems we are quick to beat up on our fellow pilots. Obviously the 777 has some interesting folks, who came from some other jet where I assume they were just as colorful, who probably deserve to be called out on occasion. But instead of directing our venom and flames at: the over 60 group, 777 tool box drivers, friends of DW, etc., it just seems that the divide and conquer tactics seen on this forum doesn't do anything to further the unity of our pilot group. (Sorry if I seem like a Rodney King kind of guy.)
MG2

MeXC 06-14-2012 05:41 PM

MG, I agree, which is why I asked the question in the first place. The insinuation was that if you were a "tool" you were more likely to be hired into the right seat of the 777.
I only asked that the person/s that posted that offer up why they think like they do.

MD11Fr8Dog 06-14-2012 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by MeXC (Post 1212250)
MG, I agree, which is why I asked the question in the first place. The insinuation was that if you were a "tool" you were more likely to be hired into the right seat of the 777.
I only asked that the person/s that posted that offer up why they think like they do.

Dude, lighten up.

Here is what that "person/s" thinks. The 777 has been aka the Toolbox for a long time now here on property, almost from the beginning. It's been no secret. I initially heard the term from 777 guys themselves. We lost many of our "colorful" tools from the MD11 to the 777, and I hear from my many Airbus buds that they lost many of their tools as well.

My comment is more a jab at the Toolbox, and not the new hires. It was a joke. I joke with many of my 777 buds about being in the Toolbox, they laugh, they get it. Maybe you don't get it. Sorry to touch a nerve. Are you on the 777. ;)

I hear that one of the biggest tools formerly of the MD11 and now of the 777 may have actually turned himself in recently for having an issue with kleptomania - lets just say that I know first hand that the passport that he may have handed over when he may have turned himself in (if true) is not the first he has been suspected of stealing. :(

I'm sure there are others that went to the 777 from other aircraft that made the pilots of their previous aircrafts sigh with relief (those cool 777 lanyards in lieu of ALPA lanyards, bidding it without a negotiated pay scale, lots of over 60 guys right after the regulatory age change, etc didn't do much to quash that perception). And I have no doubt that there are those that have stood up and filled the void that those guys left went they went to the 777. Heck, for all I know, I could be one of the new tools on the MD11, which is why I keep giving away the odd landing each trip and buying my FOs beers - so they don't out me. ;)

MeXC 06-15-2012 03:51 AM

Thanks, dude.;)
Lightened and enlightened in one fell swoop.

vonFlieger 06-15-2012 05:39 AM

[QUOTE=MD11Fr8Dog;1212377

I'm sure there are others that went to the 777 from other aircraft that made the pilots of their previous aircrafts sigh with relief (those cool 777 lanyards in lieu of ALPA lanyards, bidding it without a negotiated pay scale, lots of over 60 guys right after the regulatory age change, etc didn't do much to quash that perception). And I have no doubt that there are those that have stood up and filled the void that those guys left went they went to the 777. Heck, for all I know, I could be one of the new tools on the MD11, which is why I keep giving away the odd landing each trip and buying my FOs beers - so they don't out me. ;)[/QUOTE]


Oddly enough it was some of our former union "leadership" that bid the T7 w/o the negotiated pay rate. I agree with the earlier statements, there are tools everywhere! Many of which have bid off the T7 now....or at least one that I know of :) One might argue, the folks bidding into an FDA right now could be the biggest tools of all...or at least not the sharpest tool in the drawer....(saying messed up on purpose...my humor is warped, but the voices in my head laugh)

my quote box thingy did not work....guess that is what happens when you only have 10 posts...

Busboy 06-15-2012 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by vonFlieger (Post 1212484)
Oddly enough it was some of our former union "leadership" that bid the T7 w/o the negotiated pay rate. I agree with the earlier statements, there are tools everywhere! Many of which have bid off the T7 now....or at least one that I know of :) One might argue, the folks bidding into an FDA right now could be the biggest tools of all...or at least not the sharpest tool in the drawer....(saying messed up on purpose...my humor is warped, but the voices in my head laugh)

my quote box thingy did not work....guess that is what happens when you only have 10 posts...

You need to add one of these ] behind this:

[QUOTE=MD11Fr8Dog;1212377

to get your quote box thingy to work. You obviously erased it.

Dadof6 06-15-2012 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog (Post 1212377)
...

I hear that one of the biggest tools formerly of the MD11 and now of the 777 may have actually turned himself in recently for having an issue with kleptomania - lets just say that I know first hand that the passport that he may have handed over when he may have turned himself in (if true) is not the first he has been suspected of stealing. :(

...

Now that is truly inspired. Make a name for yourself as "Captain Klepto" by stealing other dudes' stuff over several years, then set yourself up for Long Term Disability (LTD) or Medical Retirement by claiming a medical condition of kleptomania.

I know, I know, I'm sure this is a truly authentic mental affliction, and I SHOULD be sympathetic and hope this individual gets the help he needs.....................but I'm not. Guess I can add that to the list of things for which I need to repent.;):p

Fedex999999 06-15-2012 06:53 AM

"Tool box" isn't so clever, and not so funny anymore. Time to move on, rather than continue to alienate and fracture our pilot group.

HDawg 06-15-2012 07:25 AM

"Tool container?"


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