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Bird Watcher 07-13-2012 04:14 PM

Skylease Cargo MD-11...old thread wore out
 
Just curious if anyone knows for sure if FO's get typed in the MD-11 upon completion of training. I have read the older post in here and other forums and keep hearing different things. I know its a crappy company to work for but I just want some heavy time and the type would be nice. Thanks

HercDriver130 07-13-2012 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Bird Watcher (Post 1229252)
Just curious if anyone knows for sure if FO's get typed in the MD-11 upon completion of training. I have read the older post in here and other forums and keep hearing different things. I know its a crappy company to work for but I just want some heavy time and the type would be nice. Thanks

Unless you have connections in the "Miami Mafia" probably not a place to work.......or so the rumors are...

Palmtree Pilot 07-13-2012 05:32 PM

BJS is the same as SJS. Why support a $h!t ball operator that is bringing down the widebody ACMI pay rates to those of a regional operator? They are a scumbag operator, you know it, and you still want to go be a part of lowering the bar?

Pilots are their own worst enemies; Just baffling:mad:

The MD-11 type rating isn't worth crap anymore and it's not going to help you get to FDX. I know many with the type that have not ever been called for the interview and some more that weren't hired.

Jurassic Jet 07-13-2012 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by Palmtree Pilot (Post 1229290)
BJS is the same as SJS. Why support a $h!t ball operator that is bringing down the widebody ACMI pay rates to those of a regional operator? They are a scumbag operator, you know it, and you still want to go be a part of lowering the bar?

Pilots are their own worst enemies; Just baffling:mad:


^^^^^^
This


Just a random example. A five year widebody Captain making $84,000 a year?? :eek:

25,000 training contract

$24.00 a day per diem. Try to eat three meals on the road for that!


Sounds like a real Bag'O Summers Eve operation. :mad:

alphonso1 07-14-2012 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Palmtree Pilot (Post 1229290)
BJS is the same as SJS. Why support a $h!t ball operator that is bringing down the widebody ACMI pay rates to those of a regional operator? They are a scumbag operator, you know it, and you still want to go be a part of lowering the bar?

Pilots are their own worst enemies; Just baffling:mad:

The MD-11 type rating isn't worth crap anymore and it's not going to help you get to FDX. I know many with the type that have not ever been called for the interview and some more that weren't hired.


Palmtree.....You are ABSOLUTELY Correct on BOTH Counts.....Worked there....Left There.....and the MD-11 PIC Type Rating has NOT helped me get through ANYONES door.....

MD-11 Type Rated....Still Unemployed.....Still not getting even an invitation for an Interview....

Skylease was not worth the gamble......Has not helped my career....and the other comment about the Miami Mafia" is ABSOLUTELY true....

Still trying to get back to ACMI Flying with someone that you can actually earn a good enough living to support my family....

alphonso1 07-14-2012 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by HercDriver130 (Post 1229286)
Unless you have connections in the "Miami Mafia" probably not a place to work.......or so the rumors are...

HercDriver 130.....The Rumors are True....I speak from having actually experienced it.....Left in January....Still Looking For Work....

Having the MD-11 PIC Type Rating is NOT Helping to open any doors for me....

I need work bad.....and still no calls...interviews...nothing.

Bird Watcher 07-14-2012 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by alphonso1 (Post 1229704)
HercDriver 130.....The Rumors are True....I speak from having actually experienced it.....Left in January....Still Looking For Work....

Having the MD-11 PIC Type Rating is NOT Helping to open any doors for me....

I need work bad.....and still no calls...interviews...nothing.

What's the deal with the so called "miami mafia"? Are those D-bags preventing you from getting jobs elsewhere or just making a sh**ty work environment while at skylease?

alphonso1 07-14-2012 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Bird Watcher (Post 1229770)
What's the deal with the so called "miami mafia"? Are those D-bags preventing you from getting jobs elsewhere or just making a sh**ty work environment while at skylease?


Both of those statements would be accurate.....QUITE Accurate...

Whistlin' Dan 07-14-2012 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by Palmtree Pilot (Post 1229290)
BJS is the same as SJS. Why support a $h!t ball operator that is bringing down the widebody ACMI pay rates to those of a regional operator? They are a scumbag operator, you know it, and you still want to go be a part of lowering the bar?

Pilots are their own worst enemies; Just baffling:mad:

Maybe because he has bills to pay and mouths to feed? His first obligation is to support his family, then to pay his debts, and somewhere wayyy down the list, to support your efforts to improve working conditions at your carrier. "Not applying for a job there" is a plss-poor way to do that, IMHO.

NO pilot ever lobbied successfully for better pay and QOL at a carrier from outside the company.

Huck 07-14-2012 08:54 PM

There's two perspectives. The one where you're employed. And the one where you're not. And they're quite different.


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