That "crashed" airplane is already back in revenue service. So much for that theory, nite. Little Rock has taken a beating. What usually happens after something like that? Hmm - improvement! You just keep on enjoying your negotiated lifestyle. We'll keep improving ours.

Do you guys honestly think that voting the contract down is going to stop the merger? If so your ABX brethren are leading you astray. You guys are prolonging the inevetable, and if you are doing it because the ABX'ers are saying Hete will throw money at it then I think you might have false hopes.

Did one of you just say "bazinga"? That's professional and just the think I want to hear at alert height. No wonder you guys are sheep listening to your ABX guys tell you how to handle Hete. As I count it there are no furloughs out of seniority currently at Capitol Cargo, but I can find in several places where your contract allows it to, get back to me when you find those!! Nite ;-)

Please merge with us, please, please.
Size matters, vote NO.

I think the contract say 9 months to binding arbitration but then we could play kick-the-can down the road a long, long time.

US Airways Attorney Robert A. Siegel made the following statement to the court on 2/21/12 Court Document 164:
Given that the integrated seniority list was accepted by US Airways as required by the Transition Agreement, which is binding on US Airways’ pilots (whether represented by ALPA or USAPA)
The Transition Agreement established a process for integration of the seniority lists – namely, “final and binding” arbitration between the East Pilots and West Pilots “in accordance with ALPA Merger Policy.” (Sep. Stmt. [Doc. No. 156-1] at ¶¶ 10-11.) But it also created an obligation on the part of US Airways to accept the integrated seniority list generated through that agreed-upon process so long as the specified conditions were met, and it thereby created prospective substantive rights that inured to the benefit of the pilots and not just process rights. (Doc. No. 156-1 at ¶ 10.) Once ALPA (as the pilots’ representative) presented the integrated seniority list to US Airways and US Airways accepted it, if not sooner, those substantive rights materialized and were not, as USAPA would have it, a mere “tentative agreement between ALPA and US Airways on a bargaining proposal.” (Doc. No. 152 at 16:27-17:1.) Thus, even if USAPA’s proffered distinction between “substantive rights” and “process elements” had support in the RLA jurisprudence, which it does not, the Transition Agreement undeniably created “substantive rights” with respect to seniority integration and USAPA inherited that status quo when it replaced ALPA as the pilots’ representative.

Just ask a US airways pilot.

Our contract does allow for a furlough off equipment which could and did result of out of seniority furlough, mec filed a grievance which is all we can do, I'm not sure the status of it . And I'm not sure your point.

Lets see... What would Capitol bring to the table....... Nothing.

Did ATSG throw us a Bone to ratify the JCBA.... No, in fact we gave away a couple minor items

What would ATI guys loose.... Seniority! It's all about Seniority Guys

Has anyone looked at the TA yet?

Yes. Why do you ask??

And voting down the JCBA is going to affect seniority how? You guys do realize that is a separate round of negotiations, right?

Yes, we do realize that. Here's what else we "realize":

ATI pilots got absolutely nothing in the JCBA.

ATI pilots stand to lose seniority and peeps hired in the last two to three years will be/remain on the street.

Voting down the JCBA, short circuits the SLI.

Since the "threat" of losing the Combi contract was nothing but a lie, we believe that voting down the JCBA helps our group The fact is, with a combined group, ATI will now have to absorb all the training costs from the CCI pilots that your group avoided by allowing to furlough out of seniority.

And it seems by the posts on this board that the majority of CCI thinks they are better off without the JCBA and ATI so you should be thanking us.

You’re welcome.