IPA Comments to FAA Regarding Part 117
02-11-2013, 04:02 PM
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IPA Comments to FAA Regarding Part 117
Here are the documents the IPA filed with the FAA regarding the exclusion of all cargo pilots from part 117
http://library.ipapilot.org/weblibrary/IPAvFAApart117comments.pdf - (Executive Summary)
http://library.ipapilot.org/weblibrary/IPACommentsonFAAInitialSupplementalRIA.pdf - (IPA Comments on FAA Pilot Fatigue)
http://library.ipapilot.org/weblibrary/IPAExhibitVolumeI.pdf-Exhibits to IPA Filing
http://library.ipapilot.org/weblibrary/IPAExhibitVolumeII.pdf-Exhibits to IPA Filing
http://library.ipapilot.org/weblibrary/IPAvFAApart117comments.pdf - (Executive Summary)
http://library.ipapilot.org/weblibrary/IPACommentsonFAAInitialSupplementalRIA.pdf - (IPA Comments on FAA Pilot Fatigue)
http://library.ipapilot.org/weblibrary/IPAExhibitVolumeI.pdf-Exhibits to IPA Filing
http://library.ipapilot.org/weblibrary/IPAExhibitVolumeII.pdf-Exhibits to IPA Filing
02-12-2013, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyAstarJets
Kudos to the IPA.
All I see from ALPA is "My name is Moak and I really don't like what they did. I sure hope they change their minds."
All I see from ALPA is "My name is Moak and I really don't like what they did. I sure hope they change their minds."
As for ALPA National, Do you feel like the donkeys you look like?
02-12-2013, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunter
Bravo IPA.
As for ALPA National, Do you feel like the donkeys you look like?
As for ALPA National, Do you feel like the donkeys you look like?
02-12-2013, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyAstarJets
All I see from ALPA is "My name is Moak and I really don't like what they did. I sure hope they change their minds."
Sign on to crewroom.alpa.org and look on the right side of the page for this button:
Click it, and then look for the Call To Action for The Safe Skies Act of 2013
Support The Safe Skies Act of 2013
The Safe Skies Act has been reintroduced! Like its predecessor in the 112th Congress, the Safe Skies Act of 2013 will correct the oversight made by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) in its final regulations (FAR 117) to address pilot fatigue for passenger airlines only. The rules excluded cargo airline operations from mandatory compliance. For decades, ALPA has advocated for “One Level of Safety” for the simple reason that all pilots and airline operations should be treated equally regardless of payload or flight mission. Contact your representative today to urge them to support the Safe Skies Act and achieve One Level of Safety.
As the National Transportation Safety Board Chairman Deborah Hersman has said, “A tired pilot is a tired pilot, whether there are 10 paying customers on board or 100, whether the payload is passengers or pallets.” By exempting cargo airline operations from mandatory compliance with the new pilot fatigue rules, the traveling public is at risk.
Cargo pilots fly the same routes, in the same airspace, and into the same airports as passenger airlines. Moreover, cargo operations often taken place at night or early morning for express delivery of packages, increasing pilot fatigue, as proved by modern science. It does not make sense for the world-leader in airline safety to exclude cargo operations from science-based rules.
The Safe Skies Act will undo the exemption for cargo carriers and simply require that all airline operations operate by the same rules and safety standards. Tell your federal legislators that as a pilot and ALPA member One Level of Safety in the skies is important to you, and urge them to cosponsor the Safe Skies Act today.
Now, while you're on that page, you can look to the right and see your own profile (Name and address) and your own federal legislators -- your 2 U.S. Senators and your Representative. You can click on >> View Profile to view information about each of them. You can click on Contact to send a letter to them. The letter is already composed, but you can edit it to add your personal notes. You can have it delivered via e-mail, fax, phone, or letter -- whichever methods your congressman receives.As the National Transportation Safety Board Chairman Deborah Hersman has said, “A tired pilot is a tired pilot, whether there are 10 paying customers on board or 100, whether the payload is passengers or pallets.” By exempting cargo airline operations from mandatory compliance with the new pilot fatigue rules, the traveling public is at risk.
Cargo pilots fly the same routes, in the same airspace, and into the same airports as passenger airlines. Moreover, cargo operations often taken place at night or early morning for express delivery of packages, increasing pilot fatigue, as proved by modern science. It does not make sense for the world-leader in airline safety to exclude cargo operations from science-based rules.
The Safe Skies Act will undo the exemption for cargo carriers and simply require that all airline operations operate by the same rules and safety standards. Tell your federal legislators that as a pilot and ALPA member One Level of Safety in the skies is important to you, and urge them to cosponsor the Safe Skies Act today.
The form letter to your Congressman looks like this:
As an airline pilot and a member of the Air Line Pilots Association, International (ALPA) and your constituent, I urge you to improve aviation safety by cosponsoring the Safe Skies Act of 2013 (H.R. 182). This bipartisan legislation corrects a decision made by the FAA to exempt cargo carriers from compliance with modernized flight-time duty-time regulations (FAR117) that were implemented to combat pilot fatigue.
By exempting cargo airline operations from mandatory compliance, the traveling public is at risk. Cargo pilots fly the same routes, in the same airspace, and into the same airports as passenger airlines. Moreover, cargo operations often taken place at night or early morning for express delivery of packages, increasing pilot fatigue, as proved by modern science. It does not make sense for the world-leader in airline safety to exclude cargo operations from science-based rules.
As an airline pilot, I can tell you unequivocally that the best safety feature on any airplane is a well-rested, well-trained airline pilot. Fatigue is a serious issue and all airline passengers deserve one level of safety in our skies. Please cosponsor the Safe Skies Act today and support its passage this year.
Once you've filled in any boxes required by your legislator to receive the mail, simply click GO!By exempting cargo airline operations from mandatory compliance, the traveling public is at risk. Cargo pilots fly the same routes, in the same airspace, and into the same airports as passenger airlines. Moreover, cargo operations often taken place at night or early morning for express delivery of packages, increasing pilot fatigue, as proved by modern science. It does not make sense for the world-leader in airline safety to exclude cargo operations from science-based rules.
As an airline pilot, I can tell you unequivocally that the best safety feature on any airplane is a well-rested, well-trained airline pilot. Fatigue is a serious issue and all airline passengers deserve one level of safety in our skies. Please cosponsor the Safe Skies Act today and support its passage this year.
If you already know everything you want to know about your own legislators, skip a step and just click "Take Action", edit the letter, and click "Go!"
Or, since you've already read everything above, sign on to Crewroom, click on
, and then click Take Action to go directly to the form letter.You can send the form letter to your Congressman with a few clicks in under 60 seconds. Have you?
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02-12-2013, 09:46 AM
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02-12-2013, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
I take it you haven't participated in ALPA's Call To Action.
And as for the PAC, (cause I know that'll be your next response) I stopped giving in 2006 when National turned it's back on my Council when we needed their political backing the most. I refuse to give them any more money till I actually see it do some good. And when say "good" I mean like go to Capital Hill and start talking like they have a pair with no fear of upsetting the Elephants apple cart.
02-12-2013, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyAstarJets
Actually Tony, I have.
Got it.
Nobody says anybody has to use the "template" letter. Feel free to modify/customize/edit as you see fit. Just don't sit back and do nothing and then accuse ALPA of doing nothing.
If IPA wins, the FAA will likely go back to the drawing board to write Flight and Duty Time Restrictions and Rest Requirements, and they may or may not look like the current FAR 117. Knowing that cargo pilots would be included, it's possible that the new rule would be a watered-down version. Be careful what you ask for.
If ALPA wins, the carve-out will be removed, and all of FAR 117 will apply to all of us, just like it's written now.
If only one of the strategies succeeds, I hope it's the ALPA strategy.
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