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ForeverFO 05-29-2013 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by IslanderDriver (Post 1417281)
"If I don't take control of the airplane I'm not doing my job!" always threw them for a loop too.

I need to borrow that one, that's good.


"What about the crash axe that is REQUIRED to be on the airplane, in the cockpit, before we can depart?"
There is a story (probably urban legend) of a pilot who did just that. After the full-on junk jiggle, he proceeded to his gate in disgust, took the crash axe from his jet, returned to the unsecured side, and attempted entry.

Sirens whoop, SWAT bursts out of the ceiling. The pilot calmly states, "THIS crash axe and MY warm body needs to be in THAT airplane before we can move 1 foot. Deal with it."

I'd like to think it's true.

nakazawa 05-29-2013 11:02 AM

Project 100,000 was initiated in 1966 during the Viet Nam War to provide training and opportunity to the uneducated and poor. These persons were classified as “New Standards Men” (or the Moron Corps). This group included those unable to speak English, low aptitude, physical impairments and were referred to as McNamarah Soldiers … today's TSA.

Nakazawa

Radials Rule 05-30-2013 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by Forty5N (Post 1417417)
The last time I went through Ontario,CA as a pax, I presented my TSA pre-check Global Entry ID card, and the person did not know what it was, nor did the supervisor!!!! I was , am still flabbergasted at that one.

That's not the way it works. They're trained and equipped to scan your boarding pass. TSA precheck status is embedded in it if the airline and airport are participants.

Thedude 05-30-2013 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1417774)
I need to borrow that one, that's good.



There is a story (probably urban legend) of a pilot who did just that. After the full-on junk jiggle, he proceeded to his gate in disgust, took the crash axe from his jet, returned to the unsecured side, and attempted entry.

It really happened.
I know a guy who did it.

Thedude 05-30-2013 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by Forty5N (Post 1417417)
I presented my TSA pre-check Global Entry ID card,

No such thing
There is a Global Entry ID card and it is only good for land crossing station, not at the airport.
The ID card has nothing to do with pre-check.

USMCFDX 05-31-2013 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by Thedude (Post 1418871)
No such thing
There is a Global Entry ID card and it is only good for land crossing station, not at the airport.
The ID card has nothing to do with pre-check.

Not a true statement Dude.

Current members of U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s (CBP) Global Entry, SENTRI or NEXUS programs are already eligible to participate in TSA Pre✓™ if they are flying on a participating airline at a participating airport. Those passengers need to place their PASS ID in the ‘Known Traveler Number’ field while booking their reservation. Interested passengers who are not eligible through their airline and are not already a member of a CBP Trusted Traveler program may still be able to opt-in to TSA Pre✓™ by applying for one of the CBP Trusted Traveler programs. To learn more visit: globalentry.gov.

Forty5N 05-31-2013 04:32 AM

let me clarify a point; when I went through ONT airport as a passenger, knowing they are/were not a pre-check airport, I still had to present an ID. I presented my Gov't issued ID( Global Entry) and the Folks did not know what it was. You'd think the TSA would have some schooling on what were the acceptable forms of Gov't ID.Especially since it was a card issued by one of their programs.

ForeverFO 05-31-2013 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by Thedude (Post 1418869)
It really happened.
I know a guy who did it.

Without naming names, where did it happen, and who was the carrier? I'd shake his hand and buy him a beer!

UPSFO4LIFE 05-31-2013 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1418971)
Without naming names, where did it happen, and who was the carrier? I'd shake his hand and buy him a beer!

I believe it was either an TWA/American guy in OMA if I am thinking of the same story. Funny as hell, but I think he got in big trouble.

Thedude 05-31-2013 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1418971)
Without naming names, where did it happen, and who was the carrier? I'd shake his hand and buy him a beer!

I don't remember what city it was but he worked for Air Atlanta at the time.

I have heard of another incident and I think it was at AA.


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