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needtofly 11-22-2013 06:52 AM

Nothing wrong with a little short field takeoff and landing practice... ;-O

FoxHunter 11-22-2013 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 1525971)
You don't really think that Atlas and the FAA are going to take the "Can happen to anyone" approach to this ... do you? I'm not sure you could explain this one in an ACTUAL EMERGENCY.

People (including innocent people on the ground), equipment (an awfully expensive airplane), facilities (are they lucky they didn't break through the asphalt?)? Questionable airmanship/judgement, insurance. Tons more ...

This is a HUGE DEAL!

You're screwing with us ... right :confused:

The F/O, PF for the landing was later made VP Flt Ops at FTL, the Captain retired 15 years later as a B747 Captain.

OV-1 Mohawk-Seaboard World DC-8 lands at Marble Mountain- Vietnam.m4v - YouTube

windrider 11-22-2013 06:59 AM

One things for sure, pretty good pilots if you ask me...put that big beast in on a 6000 runway that's just wide enough for the gear and didn't put a scratch on it, no runway overrun, sounds like they had room to spare! Heck, 6000' looks a little short in an airbus, much less a freakin 747...good stick and rudder pilots if you ask me!!

windrider 11-22-2013 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 1526008)
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The F/O, PF for the landing was later made VP Flt Ops at FTL, the Captain retired 15 years later as a B747 Captain.

OV-1 Mohawk-Seaboard World DC-8 lands at Marble Mountain- Vietnam.m4v - YouTube

That was awesome, did you see those flight attendants!? Definitely the good ole days...can we get them back?

Busboy 11-22-2013 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by windrider (Post 1526014)
That was awesome, did you see those flight attendants!? Definitely the good ole days...can we get them back?

Get them back? Just take a Delta flight to Europe. Same girls from that film are still working the flights.

johnso29 11-22-2013 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 1526032)
Get them back? Just take a Delta flight to Europe. Same girls from that film are still working the flights.

That's the truth!!! :(

Jimmykool 11-22-2013 07:39 AM

fwiw Atlas aircraft don't necessarily have a big US database loaded up. This could have prevented any approach displays on the mfd. don't know if that was so for this case. i flew to multiple US airports that weren't in the database and assumed it was because all the international data took up so much storage.

MaydayMark 11-22-2013 07:50 AM

I'm really surprised that the consensus seems to be "Could happen to anyone" attitude. I'm not sure a private pilot in his Cessna could explain landing at the wrong airport? :confused: They make comedy movies with scenes like this!

And - it might not have been in his FMS Data Base? Doesn't the "DreamLifter" fly there routinely? How could it not be in the data base?

Does that mean that all the analog airplanes we've collectively ever flow (early model 747's, 737's, 727's, DC-10's, DC-9's) couldn't land at the "right" airport.

You guys are screwing with me ... right? :eek:

MX727 11-22-2013 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 1526008)
The F/O, PF for the landing was later made VP Flt Ops at FTL, the Captain retired 15 years later as a B747 Captain.

OV-1 Mohawk-Seaboard World DC-8 lands at Marble Mountain- Vietnam.m4v - YouTube

What about the FTL crew that landed at Bolton instead of Rickenbacker? I was a kid living in Columbus at the time.

Also, too young to have known about it at the time, but TWA landed at OSU instead of CMH.

PotatoChip 11-22-2013 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 1526050)
I'm really surprised that the consensus seems to be "Could happen to anyone" attitude. I'm not sure a private pilot in his Cessna could explain landing at the wrong airport? :confused: They make comedy movies with scenes like this!

And - it might not have been in his FMS Data Base? Doesn't the "DreamLifter" fly there routinely? How could it not be in the data base?

Does that mean that all the analog airplanes we've collectively ever flow (early model 747's, 737's, 727's, DC-10's, DC-9's) couldn't land at the "right" airport.

You guys are screwing with me ... right? :eek:

100% totally agree. This is NOT "could happen to anyone". This is "could happen to anyone who doesn't load the approach and have situational awareness".

I'm not saying what these guys did or didn't do, we don't know that yet. But landing at the wrong airport, in a 747-400 or equivalent avionics, could NOT "happen to anyone".


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