Atlas Crew Lands Dreamlifter Wrong Airport
 

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Can you say oops. This will be interesting.

Quick - somebody declare an emergency.....

Well, fatigue couldn't possibly have anything to do with this sort of mistake.

Everyone knows that cargo pilots don't need as much sleep as the pax guys do.

I have flown the Dreamlifter there with Evergreen many times and never went to the wrong airport. If they set up the approach with the "glass" and backed it up with the ILS, I simply don't understand how this could happen.

:D

At least Delta pilots land at the right airport, if not the right bit of pavement!;)

Lol.

Seriously though, glad nobody was hurt. Gonna be interesting to read the report on this one. Be vigilant out there folks!

Or fly through multiple time zones on the backside of the clock :)

6101 X 100' They'll get it out of there. No problem.

Well, it was a nice career while it lasted...

Put the gear down, don't run out of gas and land at the correct airport. That's all you have to do. Nice work.

Here is the audio.

Massive Plane Mistakenly Landed At A Tiny Kansas Airport And Is Stuck There

That is painful to hear. :eek:

Here is a quick overlay of the airports involved.

http://www.mx727.com/NikonCafe/Nightmare.jpg

reminds me when I was single pilot, many years ago, set up for "straight in" to KEYW (civilian field) by approach and I was by default also lined up for Key West Navy. Sunset. Landing light on. called the (wrong) field in sight and handed to KEYW tower. "November XYZ, yes you are in sight, cleared to land"

Thank god it was sunday when I did the low approach and continued to KEYW

these things unfortunately can and do happen, if the devilish chess pieces are lined up (no pun intended)

Anyone who is flown into Wichita at night knows this is an easy mistake to make (Many Airports in close proximity). We definitely need to be a little more vigilant and back up approaches when tired and dark out.

On RNAV 19L, WARUN is halfway between Jabara and Beech. Supposed to cross WARUN at or above 3000'.

Hopefully ATLAS has an ASAP program, 24 hours guys!! :-O

Many time zones.
 

CAL pilots too! :D

Continental 757 crew misidentified lights before taxiway landing

This happened at purple a while back in the 727..... happened to be a management crew. "hey, nobody saw that so lets take off and not tell anyone." Oops!

I am familiar with this area having flown there a lot, and the Dreamlifter is supposed to land at McConnell which is where Spirit loads the new 787 bodies. I wonder if it really is stuck there, I tend to doubt it.

Might be some liability later though; the runway weight-bearing capacity is a mite shy of a 747 : 62,000# for double wheel; nothing listed for double tandem. I'd guess around 150 - 180,000 for a 747's configuration. If there is in fact some damage Atlas is going to have to pony up for repairs. It doesn't seem that the airplane is anywhere near fully loaded, which should help.

A great opportunity to cite fatigue especially if they came in from Europe with just a tech stop in JFK. But a bit ironic Fedex guys are so quick to judge and criticize. How many mishaps has Fedex had? Nobody is immune to these types of incidents.

Not the first time it has happened...

Wrong Way Landings By Commercial Airliners

...probably not the last. There but for the grace of God go I.

If you're talking about the post by Membrain(less), please don't assume he speaks for the rest of the FedEx crew force. Most guys here believe he's a troll and based on the vast majority of his posts, the general consensus is that he should just go away. If he's actually a FedEx pilot, he's an embarrassment to our pilot group and a beacon of hope for stupid people the world over.

So, I started at the beginning and I only saw one potential Fedex guy judging and criticizing. I saw at least 2 speak of this happening in our group. The others were just comments. So, before you condemn all of us, realize just because one makes multiple posts, it is still just one. Hetman got it right... There by the grace of God, go I.

A B747-400, at relatively light weights, IE, under 600,000 pounds can get off the ground in 3000'. We do it in JFK all the time with max reduced thrust.
I'm sure they have the big motors, and with max blow, it should be a no brainer.
They'll have over 3000' stopping distance for a reject.

I just have to LOL at this. Just pull out you ipad and look at where you are?? Ha.

Having flown into McConnell AFB a couple times from the north the alignment and closeness of the three fields can easily cause confusion during day VFR. At night I would think more so. There but by the grace do God go I.

Shouldn't this be considered "Braking News!" ?

Airline pilot central = pilots helping pilots

I take it you're a somewhat young pilot. (Senior Skipper? Really?)

Confused Delta Pilots Land Jet at Wrong Airport - Los Angeles Times

Nice list of wrong airport landings

Wrong Way Landings By Commercial Airliners

I wonder how different the tone of this thread would be of this was let's say, Korean Air....!

Thank God we have you Cessna 152 "heavy iron" guys to explain it all to us...

The ATC tape I've heard start with him saying he's on a "Vi...RNAV GPS approach 19L". So it sounds like he was officially on an IFR approach but was actually on a visual. If they had entered the approach in the FMC and it was displayed on the Nav Display, one wonders how they got it wrong. After landing the pilot talks to McConnel tower to try and figure out where they are. From the level of confusion in the pilots voice, fatigue seems like a likely culprit here.

Here is the tape: https://soundcloud.com/producermatth...-4241-lands-at

Did Atlas hire the same C17 guys that did the same thing while trying to find MacDill AFB?

Wasn't Delta the subject of the late night comedians for years?

- "Enjoy the inflight movies ... on the airplane next to you" (after an Oceanic Nav Error)

- "Kid will love the inflatable slides"

I personally heard a discussion between Delta and Gander Control when Delta checked in radar contact westbound to JFK, "Delta, say airspeed ... mach .80, But Delta you were assigned to cruise at M.82 for the crossing ... No sir, my company flight plan says M.80?"

- LANDED AT WRONG AIRPORT

This was all in the "old days" when Delta pilots thought they walked on water (and didn't have reciprocal jumpseat privileges?)

Those Delta guys sure were good :eek:

You mean like OUR current reputation amongst fellow cargo pilots?

Actually, many on this website (myself included) wonder if MEMdouche is even a pilot. Our ...?

A wise pilot will never say, "That can't happen to me."

You're not the only one...not defending the Asiana crew, but it bears thought.