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The Walrus 11-21-2013 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by lr35pilot (Post 1525639)
It is AND not OR. 40 and 17

It's neither and nor or. It's just the bmi.

Busboy 11-21-2013 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by Gunter (Post 1525572)
It's really simple. They are setting up for the arbitration that will occur when we don't accept their offer of PBS. They will try to say they worked diligently "reaching out" to us. Of course they will never admit they are making outrageous assertions. That the thing they want requires our management culture to completely change. A change that is not going to happen under any circumstance. Managers must be practicing their most naive and surprised look in the mirror for the "are you kidding me?" moment.

How the head of contract admin can preach PBS is good for us yet be ignorant of how scheduling works at FedEx tells you much about him.


From ALPA -

COMPASS PILOTS HAVE NEW CONTRACT

Pilots at Delta Connection carrier Compass Airlines have a new contract. The new six-year agreement is a combination of contract sections negotiated by ALPA and the airline, plus a handful of issues decided by an arbitrator.



They have a pretty good track record in arbitration (slimy arbitrators) so they are willing to take a chance. Apparently management has come to the conclusion there is nothing to lose but all to gain by stalling negotiations. A time honored technique from some seriously old school managers. If they could just convince us of that "fact" all will be well.

Do you think they respect our negotiating process? I don't. What we've got here is failure to communicate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=452XjnaHr1A

Question is, can we speak in the language we know they understand?

Who in their right mind would agree to arbitration over PBS? If and when the NMB proffers arbitration...I would decline.

Busboy 11-21-2013 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by lr35pilot (Post 1525639)

Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 1525542)
BMI 40 AND/OR Neck 17"


It is AND not OR.
Those with a body mass index (BMI) of 40 or greater and a neck circumference of 17 inches would have to be tested for obstructive sleep apnea.


FAA: Overweight pilots, controllers must be tested for sleep disorders - CNN.com

It was a joke. Mainly for Tony, and his pals. re: Sleep Apnea--Tony vs Many



Guess I needed a few of these...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Doogs 11-21-2013 06:34 PM

Just goes to show that the legal definition of a thing, i.e. direct dealing, isn't necessarily the practical definition of a thing.

Hound 11-21-2013 08:34 PM

The wake stirred up by back paddling is IMPRESSIVE!

TonyC 11-22-2013 01:36 AM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 1525542)

BMI 40 AND/OR Neck 17"



No, no, no ...


It's BMI > 40 AND a reading comprehension test. ;)






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kronan 11-22-2013 04:21 AM

I can read just fine, I am not illegitimate!

:rolleyes:

Gunter 11-22-2013 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 1525654)
Who in their right mind would agree to arbitration over PBS? If and when the NMB proffers arbitration...I would decline.

I hear you. We should get used to the idea that the current CBA will be with us for awhile.

MaydayMark 11-22-2013 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by Gunter (Post 1526049)
We should get used to the idea that the current CBA will be with us for awhile.

Was that always part of Management's plan?

We'll squeeze them until they agree to PBS, intentionally drag out negotiations and then ask for arbitration ... heck, we might be able to drag this out for 4-5 years. We win! High 5's!

We can start this plan by taking their lockers away ... that will distract them for a couple of months ... ha, ha, ha!

lr35pilot 11-22-2013 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 1525664)
It was a joke. Mainly for Tony, and his pals. re: Sleep Apnea--Tony vs Many



Guess I needed a few of these...:rolleyes:

Sorry, I have just seen so much on this lately. I am one of the over 17 inch fellas...at least that is what she says!
:eek::eek:


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