FDX: Midtrip DHs cancelled and replaced?
11-24-2013, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by noser
I made this mistake about a year ago. Your bank will be whatever is on the trip when you block out for the trip. With that in mind, if you fly the scheduled dead head then you will use the bank and will have nothing left over. It's not the highest bank anymore.
11-24-2013, 06:21 PM
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The following may not apply in this case but is something to keep in mind.
If you have a mid-trip DH and they eliminate it but add a Front or back end DH you don't get both DH monies.
If you started with one DH and end up with only one you get the higher of the two, not both.
This may also apply if they change a front end DH to a back end DH but am not sure. I just know the above example is in effect.
In any case, e-mail audit when as soon as a question pops up. You will get an answer and know how to proceed.
Disruption still applies if you are in the right pay code.
If you have a mid-trip DH and they eliminate it but add a Front or back end DH you don't get both DH monies.
If you started with one DH and end up with only one you get the higher of the two, not both.
This may also apply if they change a front end DH to a back end DH but am not sure. I just know the above example is in effect.
In any case, e-mail audit when as soon as a question pops up. You will get an answer and know how to proceed.
Disruption still applies if you are in the right pay code.
Last edited by Gunter; 11-24-2013 at 06:54 PM.
11-24-2013, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
The bank you will receive is the highest of the sum total of D/H's on your trip:
1) When it was assigned, or
2) When you block out, or
3) The FINAL revision (Interim revisions do not count)
ALPA CE and FDX crew audit have agreed on this.
1) When it was assigned, or
2) When you block out, or
3) The FINAL revision (Interim revisions do not count)
ALPA CE and FDX crew audit have agreed on this.
Last edited by Gunter; 11-24-2013 at 06:53 PM.
11-25-2013, 01:21 AM
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Interesting, now I got revised back to the original pairing as rev2. Since Rev1 happened prior to block out I should retain the block out revised bank since it was higher right?
11-25-2013, 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Flaps50
Interesting, now I got revised back to the original pairing as rev2. Since Rev1 happened prior to block out I should retain the block out revised bank since it was higher right?
Normally, you can go into the expense report for the month your trip falls into and see exactly what your bank is in the first section at the top. If you have no expenses for the month yet, you won't be able to see the report unless you put in a phantom OOP expense. If it doesn't reflect the bank you had when you blocked out under Rev1, you can fix it via discrepancy inputs or missing travel record once your trip is complete.
Definitely make a habit of saving a .pdf or screen shot of every pairing revision.
11-25-2013, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Flaps50
Interesting, now I got revised back to the original pairing as rev2. Since Rev1 happened prior to block out I should retain the block out revised bank since it was higher right?
11-25-2013, 08:16 AM
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It looks like I'm retaining the bank for the more expensive mid trip DH so I'll have a lot of excess bank for Nov. since they kept the block out bank value which was higher. They denied my missing bank balance requests for the two mid trip cancelled DHs because the single DH was a higher bank value.
Thanks all!
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11-25-2013, 09:45 AM
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That's the way it works. Lots of people think they keep the highest of each individual D/H fare on their trip. Nope. You get the highest TOTAL of all D/H's on your trip, from those 3 points in time. In other words...the highest "Trip Total" listed for accepted fares at the bottom of your pairing, is what you need to be comparing.
I always make a point to do a thorough pre brief at the beginning and a thorough debrief at the end of each trip, on this subject. I make it a part of my 3.4hr pre brief and 1.7 hr debriefing. In my 53 years of mistake free commercial aviation, I have never had a problem with an expense report.
I always make a point to do a thorough pre brief at the beginning and a thorough debrief at the end of each trip, on this subject. I make it a part of my 3.4hr pre brief and 1.7 hr debriefing. In my 53 years of mistake free commercial aviation, I have never had a problem with an expense report.
11-25-2013, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
I always make a point to do a thorough pre brief at the beginning and a thorough debrief at the end of each trip, on this subject. I make it a part of my 3.4hr pre brief and 1.7 hr debriefing. In my 53 years of mistake free commercial aviation, I have never had a problem with an expense report.
