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kronan 12-10-2013 02:17 PM

FDX-parking
 
Fedex must have bought a towing company

Starting Monday, improperly parked vehicles are going to be towed off-site with some financial repercussions

gderek 12-10-2013 02:48 PM

More harrassment, The fees are outrageous. It's too bad they aren't capable of anything postive.

MD11Fr8Dog 12-10-2013 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by kronan (Post 1537065)
Fedex must have bought a towing company

Starting Monday, improperly parked vehicles are going to be towed off-site with some financial repercussions


I wonder what constitutes "improperly parked"! What if I have a note from my mechanic?

MaydayMark 12-10-2013 03:23 PM

Another Contract negotiations distraction? Suspicious timing?

What if my car "landed" at the wrong airport by mistake?

FlyBoyd 12-10-2013 05:01 PM

So I guess the chuckleheads that make their own spots at the end of the row might have to walk some now. It might reduce their BMI to 39 so there's that:)

HDawg 12-10-2013 05:37 PM

Maybe they should have towed the Indy deice truck that caused a safety hazard...

TonyC 12-10-2013 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog (Post 1537086)

I wonder what constitutes "improperly parked"! What if I have a note from my mechanic?


I've seen plenty of cars on the diagonal hashed lines that designate the separation between the parking spaces and the drive lanes, and quite a few in the drive lanes themselves. I think they qualify as "improperly parked". Hey, why bother driving to a real parking space when you can park 10 feet away from the gate? :rolleyes: Frankly, I think those individuals make us all look bad.


BUT ... the timing ... that's another story. :mad:






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MaxKts 12-10-2013 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 1537230)
BUT ... the timing ... that's another story. :mad:.

Hey - Christmas is coming up. All those MEM bubbas jumpseating to Grandmas house need a place to park. :eek:

XprsFr8r 12-11-2013 04:16 AM

Can you say "abandoned?"
 
If "improperly parked" is defined as 3+ flat tires and/or a giant weed growing through the bumper, then I say go for it.

Some of the primo spots have cars permanently "parked" in them.

Ditto what Tony said: they make us look bad.

flextodaline 12-11-2013 04:39 AM

...wonder how this will affect the O/B lot.......particularly when the lot is full and I'm guessing we don't have 300 O/B's a day.......

MaydayMark 12-11-2013 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by flextodaline (Post 1537394)
...wonder how this will affect the O/B lot.......particularly when the lot is full and I'm guessing we don't have 300 O/B's a day.......

Don't worry about the "outback" lot (that's what the bus drivers call it). Management plans to take that away next month.

Besides, I thought that was MEM bubba personal parking. I walked in from the OB lot with a guy headed on a 10 day round-the-world trip.

Hmmm ... how come there's snow on some of those OB lot cars 10 days after a snow storm?

kronan 12-11-2013 07:46 AM

If they finally tow the 'landmark' vehicles I won't be able to find mine

Timing just sucks though, quite possible someone will return from a long trip to a missing car. And won't that be a fun event at Midnight, hmm, can I use my company card to pay for the 'parking' in a secured lot? Course I only get like 3 days worth,

Wouldn't it be much better to identify the problem children, get airport security to run the plates, then warn them to avoid future occurrences. I know there are times during peak where there aren't a lot of empty spots other than the various lakes.
Cold is kicking my sinuses this year, and I know the last thing I want to do is show up with wet feet after parking in a few inches of water.

MeXC 12-11-2013 08:00 AM

How many parking spots are under water or 2-3 inches of mud in the Democrat lot? How many detours do you have to make around the Lot of 10,000 Lakes dragging your bags or picking them up to avoid the mud and water?
Why isn't there a place to wait for the bus out of the elements by the gate anymore?
But it's all about safety...

HIFLYR 12-11-2013 08:22 AM

While we are at it what about all the Corp security, rent a cops and bus drivers parking in the one hour lot by the AOC.

hypoxia 12-11-2013 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by XprsFr8r (Post 1537384)
If "improperly parked" is defined as 3+ flat tires and/or a giant weed growing through the bumper, then I say go for it.

Some of the primo spots have cars permanently "parked" in them.

Ditto what Tony said: they make us look bad.

Yeah but that bumper weed is good stuff! :D

YYESIAV8 12-11-2013 08:48 AM

"Wouldn't it be much better to identify the problem children..."

https://pilot.fedex.com/m/general-in...vehicles.shtml

They sort of have, these pictures have been on PFC for more than a year and was announced by FCIF when they were placed there. Wasn't that hard to look at the Pix and see your old beater sitting there in need of some TLC or a trip to the boneyard.

kronan 12-11-2013 08:55 AM

Pretty sure the cars mgt is speaking of are those parked adjacent to marked spots in the center lane.

Haven't checked the lines, but seemed like guys had made impromptu spots on both sides

kronan 12-11-2013 08:56 AM

And how tough would it be to get a name, then email or text the miscreants cell versus the way mgt is going about this

DLax85 12-11-2013 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by kronan (Post 1537606)
And how tough would it be to get a name, then email or text the miscreants cell versus the way mgt is going about this

Those resources are being better spent collecting doctors notes for pilots who use their sick leave on non-holidays and during the cold & flu season

MaydayMark 12-11-2013 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by kronan (Post 1537606)
And how tough would it be to get a name, then email or text the miscreants cell versus the way mgt is going about this

Those people were let go in order to pay for the last round of MBO bonuses ... :confused:

kwri10s 12-11-2013 11:39 AM

speaking of stupid thing to pay for bonus'
 
What is with the single sheet toilet paper dispensers in MEM. Ever since the new sleep rooms they seem to be installing the single sheet dispensers everywhere. Really!!! How much money can that save. Were there wadding issues? Why no FCIF about usage problems. What a pain in the a$$.

It does leave a distinct impression they are next going to track the number of sheets we use per wipe. Could a monthly limit be close behind.

kronan 12-11-2013 11:50 AM

Ahh,
Those people were let go and started a small business.

Only one tow truck for now, but they have big dreams

Stratosphere 12-11-2013 01:53 PM

The only problem I saw at the CTC where I work was one car that was there for years they finally got rid of it. Don't know if it was a pilot airport car or not. I do have issues with all the handicapped people who obviously are not but they have the appropriate placard on the mirror..Guess anyone can get one these days..As someone who has had real handicapped people in my family this is a sore spot for me.

olly 12-12-2013 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog (Post 1537086)
I wonder what constitutes "improperly parked"! What if I have a note from my mechanic?

Sent this to chuck this am, no response so far.
Chuck,

The FCIF directs to contact your for questions regarding this new policy.

1) What objective criterion determines that "...a vehicle has been identified as improperly parked or abandoned.."?

2) Without clear verifiable criterion, an expensive action could result from someone's subjective judgment. Who will be the "judge"? If this is a new policy- there should be definitions & scope to the policy.

3) Since there is NO clearly defined criterion of improperly "parked or abandoned", and the determination of which is seemingly a subjective judgment, will there be a notification system prior to a car being towed??

This will afford the owner time to rectify the problem before incurring an expense. A fair policy would allow (notification & time) for the individual to rectify the situation

4) You may or may not be aware that the majority of pilots are commuters. Some may have cars that don't get used for months. (notification should allow a month at least)

Many of these commuter cars are older, and appear haggard, but they are functional to our employees. What is the abandonment criterion??

A car that hasn't been used may develop a flat tire, would this be a determination of abandonment???

Personally I'd be furious if someone towed my car for $125, and incurred a $30/day storage fee, and I didn't know it until a month or two later if it was just the result of a flat tire.

5) "Improperly parked vehicles in our parking lots create safety hazards". Specifically- what are the hazards??

6) Why is this an issue now??? Pilots have been parking there for years, and anecdotally I've never heard of any safety issues.

We're all on the same team here at Fed Ex, and we should take action that creates value & trust, vs. action that can be perceived as subjective, capricious,& without value.

There may very well be safety issues, and the policy may have good intent. IMHO, clear communication of:

-why now

-the specific safety hazards

-the criterion that define improperly parked

-the criterion for determining abandonment

- And a notification/warning system (as was done when the parking lot was repaired a few years ago- we all know this notification system is executable)

Would make the policy clear, valuable, and fair.

flextodaline 12-12-2013 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by MeXC (Post 1537560)
How many parking spots are under water or 2-3 inches of mud in the Democrat lot? How many detours do you have to make around the Lot of 10,000 Lakes dragging your bags or picking them up to avoid the mud and water?
Why isn't there a place to wait for the bus out of the elements by the gate anymore?
But it's all about safety...

Excellent point......maybe someone should tell our "transparent" management team to take off their "myopia glasses" and see what's really needed:p:p

MD11Fr8Dog 12-12-2013 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by MeXC (Post 1537560)
How many parking spots are under water or 2-3 inches of mud in the Democrat lot? How many detours do you have to make around the Lot of 10,000 Lakes dragging your bags or picking them up to avoid the mud and water?
Why isn't there a place to wait for the bus out of the elements by the gate anymore?
But it's all about safety...

So say PC's new posters to be unveiled at a Christmas hub meal near you!:rolleyes:

MeXC 12-12-2013 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog (Post 1538129)
So say PC's new posters to be unveiled at a Christmas hub meal near you!:rolleyes:

It's HOLIDAY MEAL you, insensitive cretin!
Off to the Re-education Camp for you...

Flaps50 12-12-2013 09:42 AM

Olly, I agree with your post completely. The only safety hazard I see in the lot is the water issue. I mean come on, blame us for not parking correctly in the democrat lot... half the descent parking spots are filled with 4 inches of water on any given day! I have never heard anyone complain about how cars are parked in the democrat lot... Why now?

niteFly84 12-12-2013 11:17 AM

Here's Chucks's answers..
 
1) Democrat lot has many vehicles parked in the center aisle/drive lane that may or may not be marked (white lines, some are orange lines). Will vehicles be orange tagged and towed for being parked there? Yes they will be tagged with an orange sticker first and not towed provided they are not blocking traffic where other cars cannot access and provided they are not a safety hazard to others in the lot.
2) What is the criteria for a vehicle to be classified as towable? Illegally parked. Security considers any vehicle that’s not parked between two white lines as a standard. Vehicles blocking traffic, handicap areas (no handicap plate or hand tag), and fire lanes or hydrants are in violation. Apparent Abandon vehicles (flat tires, expired tags) we will contact the owner if sufficient information is available to do so before towing.
3) Will any attempt be made to contact the owner of the vehicle tagged for towing prior to being towed away? Case by case basis. If not impeding traffic and not a safety hazard we will do so if information is available to do so.
4) When a vehicle is tagged and a picture is taken, will the picture be published so that an employee can identify the vehicle? The FedEx & towing company receipts and picture will be held by FedEx security and the owner will have an opportunity to view and sign the tow slip before contacting the towing company. We do not have a system to publish towed vehicles of all employees in the MEM airport area.
5) What is the time frame between when an vehicle is orange tagged and when it is towed? There is not a specific time frame for this. It is based on the quantity of illegally parked vehicles and whether they are impeding traffic, a safety hazard, repeat offender, etc.
Note – All crewmember’s don’t live in MEM and their cars there may have an expired tag for a while before they return to town to drive it again or perhaps it has a flat tire and they are unaware. Most if not all crew members park their vehicles in the pilot parking lot. Security will reach out to the owner or duty officer for vehicles in the pilot lot if we deem a vehicle is abandoned or needs towing. It is in the best interest of the pilots and it will assist us if they would ensure the tags are current and vehicles are checked from time to time to ensure the vehicle does not have flat tires or degraded to an abandoned appearance. We have seen vehicles in this lot with no tags at all, trunk and doors opened, windows open, etc.

ol'tigerguy 12-12-2013 02:04 PM

[QUOTE=kwri10s;1537699]What is with the single sheet toilet paper dispensers in MEM. Ever since the new sleep rooms they seem to be installing the single sheet dispensers everywhere. Really!!! How much money can that save. Were there wadding issues? Why no FCIF about usage problems. What a pain in the a$$.

It does leave a distinct impression they are next going to track the number of sheets we use per wipe. Could a monthly limit be close behind.[/


Need for more than one sheet could be a further indication of an inflated BMI!

Nitefrater 12-12-2013 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by ol'tigerguy (Post 1538572)
[/Need for more than one sheet could be a further indication of an inflated BMI!

That's what she said...

Sheryl Crow on hygiene - Washington Times

fdxdispatchguy 12-12-2013 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Stratosphere (Post 1537789)
I do have issues with all the handicapped people who obviously are not but they have the appropriate placard on the mirror..Guess anyone can get one these days..As someone who has had real handicapped people in my family this is a sore spot for me.

And its a sorer spot for me, who IS eligible to park there under federal law that I might have to explain myself for parking where the ADA said I can park to someone who is not a licensed physician.

So, unless you want to hobble a mile in my shoes, and are the well of all known medical knowledge (which I doubt), then why dont you grab a nice cup of Sierra Tango Foxtrot Uniform by the popcorn machine in the AOC. There are some medical issues which are on display sporadically - which if you were the well of all known medical knowledge, you would already know that.

Believe me, there is nothing I would love more than to be able to walk from the farthest spot in the CTC parking lot.

TonyC 12-12-2013 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by kwri10s (Post 1537699)

What is with the single sheet toilet paper dispensers in MEM. Ever since the new sleep rooms they seem to be installing the single sheet dispensers everywhere. Really!!! How much money can that save. Were there wadding issues? Why no FCIF about usage problems. What a pain in the a$$.

It does leave a distinct impression they are next going to track the number of sheets we use per wipe. Could a monthly limit be close behind.


I see what you did there. ;)

Touché!






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TonyC 12-12-2013 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Stratosphere (Post 1537789)

I do have issues with all the handicapped people who obviously are not but they have the appropriate placard on the mirror..Guess anyone can get one these days..As someone who has had real handicapped people in my family this is a sore spot for me.


Since you have "real" handicapped people in your family, I would think you would be more sensitive to "imaginary" handicapped people.

There's no such thing as "obviously not handicapped." While some handicaps are obvious to casual observers, many are not. I guess that's what you would call a "not real" handicap. Do some people abuse the parking privilege? Sure. That's still not a reason for us to abuse the people who use it legitimately just because we can't see their handicap.






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Jetjok 12-12-2013 03:20 PM

I believe that what Stratosphere was saying, at least my interpretation of what he was saying, was that he, (like the vast majority of us), is totally turned off by someone taking a handicapped spot, when they are not handicapped at all. He's not passing judgement on someone whose condition might require them to park in a handicapped spot, regardless of whether the look handicapped or not. Nor is he asking them to explain their situation to either himself, or anyone else. He's simply annoyed at those who have gotten the sticker, even though they are really not entitled to one. You must admit, it happens a lot. I see it quite often at the LA Fitness I go to. Someone will pull up and park in a handicapped spot, then saunter into the gym and do a 2 hour, hard workout. Regardless of their car's entitlement, if they are that healthy, they should be leaving those spaces for someone who really does need them.

Anyway, that's how I see it.

Happy Holidays to All Y'all.

TonyC 12-12-2013 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by Jetjok (Post 1538616)

He's not passing judgement on someone whose condition might require them to park in a handicapped spot, regardless of whether the look handicapped or not.


It sounds to me like he's judging from appearance whose condition merits the placard/sticker. Not everyone who should have one has a wheelchair, walker, or a limp.






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FDXLAG 12-12-2013 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 1538635)
It sounds to me like he's judging from appearance whose condition merits the placard/sticker. Not everyone who should have one has a wheelchair, walker, or a limp.

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And not everyone with a handicap sticker needs one. It plays both ways. You all are all right. Can't we all get along?

The Walrus 12-12-2013 04:13 PM

Is there really that many people using handicap parking in the Democrat lot?

AerisArmis 12-12-2013 04:22 PM

I've learned through the years that handicapped parking spots aren't for the handicapped, they're for vehicles that have handicapped plates, stickers or mirror tags.

MaydayMark 12-12-2013 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 1538613)

There's no such thing as "obviously not handicapped." While some handicaps are obvious to casual observers, many are not.

Do tell Tony ... please tell us about these "not so obvious" handicaps?

Maybe high blood pressure? Low vision? Could a pilot fly with ANY of these?

I can see it now ... pilots being led out to the airplanes by seeing eye dogs!*? :eek:


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