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Originally Posted by TonyC
(Post 93237)
This is like ducks in a barrel -- it doesn't even seem fair.
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Are we on the same team here? I mean, really. Do we not work for the same employer, and belong to the same union?
Then why can't we be civil, and exchange ideas like adults? I think we've both gotten a bit carried away, either out of frustration, or out of anger, or out of vain attempts at humor. But when the rubber meets the road, we should be able to focus on our common goals and methods of reaching the goals.
It is imperative that you read your contract. ALPA is NOT going to give you a Reader's Digest condensed version of it, and nobody is going to write a FedEx Contract for Dummies. You're just going to have to read it, and if you don't understand something, ask questions. We can talk about it here. You can talk to your Block Rep on the phone, or in person, or via e-mail. You can chat on private boards on the ALPA website or *************.com. There's lots of avenues of communication -- but you're not going to get what you're asking for, and it's a GOOD thing.
That's just all there is to it.
I don't know what happened to your Cheerios or Wheaties to get you so upset at ALPA in general, and the contract in specific, but you've got to get over it. Stop taking pot shots, and act like an adult about it.
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Finally!!!! Some reasonable dialog.....
If you will remember, all I have done is ask questions....Never claimed to have all the answers. Don't know anyone who does.
I was at the meetings to start our Union, and belong today, so how some feel I don't like the Union is beyond me.
As I also said, I like the contract.....lawyers wrote it, so guess how it reads.
I also don't think I was the first person to suggest f------ing himself.
NOW, that being said, the Union is OUR organization elected by us just as our Congress is. It is a democratic organization made up of all types of people with all sorts of agendas.
It is important to always ask questions of elected leaders. Some on this board are so blinded by their zeal for ALPA they would never notice the bad or question any intent. THAT isn't good for a country, or a UNION!
EVERYONE in this organization should continue to question not only the company but the Union as well. Neither are without their warts or bad apples. ANY organization is like that..... No accusations, just every member should always be aware of that.
As to your psych discussions with various people, just remember................." if you turn to the ocean for knowledge or nutrition, don't be suprised when it tastes salty"
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