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wetpish 01-23-2014 12:40 PM

No concession ABX.
 
Vote no. We arlready have furlough protection. Do not undermine what we already have. They are bluffing. It's best for all.

MEMbrain 01-23-2014 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by wetpish (Post 1565178)
Vote no. We arlready have furlough protection. Do not undermine what we already have. They are bluffing. It's best for all.

What concessions are they asking for?

2lowflaps 01-23-2014 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by wetpish (Post 1565178)
Vote no. We arlready have furlough protection. Do not undermine what we already have. They are bluffing. It's best for all.

What furlough protections does ABX have?

SontheD 01-24-2014 07:56 AM

ABX is an airline run with no reserves. They staff with junior manning. This works for management (fewest people on payroll) and it works for the people on property (big paychecks). The people that are screwed are the ones that are furloughed.

Now the union is going to help the company screw the furloughed guys again by allowing DUAL QUALIFIED captains! Fewer pilots needed and bigger paychecks!

Management threatened to furlough and the union took the bait! You think that kind of tactic might be used in the future?

The only silver lining in this is that it has to be voted on, and furloughed guys get to vote.

VOTE NO!
VOTE NO!
VOTE NO!

b707guy 01-24-2014 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by SontheD (Post 1565690)
Now the union is going to help the company screw the furloughed guys again by allowing DUAL QUALIFIED captains! Fewer pilots needed and bigger paychecks!

What do you mean by 'dual qualified'?

MEMbrain 01-24-2014 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by b707guy (Post 1566036)
What do you mean by 'dual qualified'?

Right seat qualified.

b707guy 01-24-2014 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by MEMbrain (Post 1566037)
Right seat qualified.

In that respect, aren't all CAs dual qualified? All of our CAs are, at least. Or is this some plan for left seat qualified pilots, flying in the left seat and not flying as an RO, but paid as FOs?

3raser 01-24-2014 05:02 PM

This LOA is a bunch of BS. They tried the same crap last year. They are not going to go through with those furloughs. We need to vote no on this one!!!

No concessions.

Larry in TN 01-25-2014 03:40 AM


Originally Posted by b707guy (Post 1566046)
In that respect, aren't all CAs dual qualified? All of our CAs are, at least. Or is this some plan for left seat qualified pilots, flying in the left seat and not flying as an RO, but paid as FOs?

At ABX, Captains can not fly in the right seat.

This tentative agreement upgrades five new Captains but establishes them as being dual-qualified for left or right seat. As the next five Captains retire, each retirement will convert the most senior remaining of these dual-qualified Captains back to a left-seat only Captain.

Union Pilot 01-25-2014 07:16 AM

LOA Dual Qualified
 
The LOA upgrades five FOs to Captain and pays them as Captain even if they fly another seat. In addition we stop the furloughs, all for
the privilege of actually taking up to half of our vacation instead
of flying for the extra dollars. Maybe we should take all our vacation
and actually recall some of our fellow pilots. Just a thought, oh
and BTW ....Why do you want me to vote no?


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