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C17MooseDriver 02-11-2014 08:29 PM

You're OTP is only good for 2 bid periods. No matter how many times you recycle it, it's still only good for the 2 bid periods after you get it. Plus, these charters are 45 ch and above. I don't see how they can get that many OTP hours to cover it continuously.

One of the permanent charter pilot has already got a 60+ ch charter this month and was able to snag another 45+ charter today.

Wildmanny 02-11-2014 08:30 PM

Which trips and dates are we talking about?

VSTOLG4 02-11-2014 09:04 PM

Post the details and let others take a look. I personally get a lot of sweet OT trips but that is the result of nearly 300 pings a day when I'm actively searching to change my schedule. I recently had one that was FRZ and then I got it...then it was CNX then appeared again as a different pairing #. Would like to know more...

Gunpig 02-11-2014 09:45 PM

Here is one example:

2186 12feb &
2242 19 feb
CT is FO and is getting 107+ CH for 3 legs of live flying

pilot141 02-11-2014 09:46 PM

VSTOLG4 I'm not familiar with the 757 charter/OT scene - are there serial abusers who always end up on the good deals? In my seat if I see a sweet charter pop up I can name 5 people who will get it, and 90% of the time I will be right.

If that trip that you got that was CNXed and showed up again with a new pairing number ended up in the lap of one the "chosen few" then you need to tell the union about it. We can argue OTP recycling all day, but having skeds recycle a pairing number to get the "right" guy on it is WAY out of bounds.

Gunpig 02-11-2014 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by C17MooseDriver (Post 1579426)
You're OTP is only good for 2 bid periods. No matter how many times you recycle it, it's still only good for the 2 bid periods after you get it. Plus, these charters are 45 ch and above. I don't see how they can get that many OTP hours to cover it continuously.

Recycling is a loophole but is wrong. I think almost everyone can agree that OTP is intended to be used as a one time good deal to repay for a slight that member received at some point. You cut the line ONCE & get 125%. It was never meant to be a scheduling tool to improve your life unfairly for almost 3 full months. This practice of OTP to cut the line, then dropping and picking back up with general m/u to replenish your OTP bank...rinse & repeat...needs to stop

OTP is good till the end of the 2d bid period after getting it so in practice it's almost 3 months. Also a lot of these charters get cancelled and individuals get offered sub which is then denied hence new OTP clock for new OTP

pilot141 02-11-2014 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by Gunpig (Post 1579444)
Here is one example:

2186 12feb &
2242 19 feb
CT is FO and is getting 107+ CH for 3 legs of live flying

Also $18K of deviation money to play with this month, and one big fare isn't even posted yet.

Patches 02-11-2014 10:38 PM

There is at least one Charter boy in ANC. I went to look at his calendar....BLOCKED. Similar seniority and about 8000 employee numbers apart. Man this ****es me off - its like stealing when the playing field is not level.

MeXC 02-12-2014 12:55 AM

It was hinted to me back in Oct 13 that some individuals were getting some focus due to this issue. I guess there's nothing they can do about it or it seems like it would've already been done.
Calendar blocking...sheesh.

C17MooseDriver 02-12-2014 03:56 AM


Originally Posted by Patches (Post 1579453)
There is at least one Charter boy in ANC. I went to look at his calendar....BLOCKED. Similar seniority and about 8000 employee numbers apart. Man this ****es me off - its like stealing when the playing field is not level.

The top three guys who get the charters also have their calendars blocked.


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