Ayfkm

Anyone know how the certain 3 people always get the charter trips?

Wildmanny

They gift the schedulers with loot. Seriously. Go to Firebirds in CVille. It's been going on for years.

PS--I'm not sure who these "3" are, so I'm not indicting them specifically. Let's just say that there are many in the bro network who know how to grease the skids.

Gunpig

Several are recycling Open Time Priority. This has to stop, it's a complete abuse of the contract and definitely a big scr#w your buddy routine.

This is above and beyond the ones who utilize bot codes or have sweetheart deals with charter folks/schedulers

This last part is rumor, the OTP recycle part is verified fact

DoodyOfficer

Easy fix. ALPA needs to step up and kick these buddy f___ers out of the union. They are in complete violation of ALPA Code of Ethics. Then the company should go after these fools without ALPA representation and let these fellas pay their own attorney fees while trying to save their jobs. Heck, justice would be served when they spend all their charter money on attorney fees.
I have no problem with guys getting good deals, but when you are stepping on others to achieve this is when I start being part of the solution.

flextodaline

riiiiiight.......in a perfect world where our union had some teeth,, this might be feasible.

remember......no pilot left behind......

DoodyOfficer

My opinion, these pilots lost that right when they violated the code of ethics. They went rogue and are screwing the rest of the pilot group. I do agree you need a union and a company willing to tackle this issue.

YYESIAV8

Specifically what part of the code of ethics are they violating?

Its proven they are recycling OTP, ok, but that is a loop hole in an ALPA negotiated CBA that they are taking advantage of. That hole is open to all of us if we what to play that game.

As for paying of schedulers or whatever sweet heart deals they are making...that is all alleged and I have to believe that if it was provable they and the scheduler/s would have been gone long ago.

Not condoning the actions, but besides ****ing us all of, what are they actually violating?

Maybe this is why our spineless management and toothless union have not done anything.

DoodyOfficer

• He will not falsely or maliciously injure the professional reputation, prospects, or job security of another pilot, yet if he knows of professional incompetence or conduct detrimental to the profession or to ALPA, he will not shrink from revealing this to the proper authorities within ALPA, so that the weak member may be brought up to the standards demanded, or ALPA and the profession alike may be rid of one unworthy to share its rewards.
• An Air Line Pilot shall refrain from any action whereby, for his personal benefit or gain, he take advantage of the confidence reposed in him by his fellow members. If he is called upon to represent ALPA in any dispute, he will do so to the best of his ability, fairly and fearlessly, relying on the influence and power of ALPA to protect him.
• He will regard himself as a debtor to his profession and ALPA, and will dedicate himself to their advancement. He will cooperate in the upholding of the profession by exchanging information and experience with his fellow pilots and by actively contributing to the work of professional groups and the technical press.
• He will conduct all his affairs in a manner that reflects credit on himself and his profession.
• He will remember that to his neighbors, friends, and acquaintances he represents both the profession and ALPA, and that his actions represent to them the conduct and character of all members of the profession and ALPA

magic rat

I emailed my ALPA rep explaining my frustration. NO WAY are these individuals fast fingering me to the punch on a monthly basis. Obviously they have an upperhand or insider helping them out. I was told, quote, they are being watched and have been called in and....was told "ALPA does not discipline their own, we protect our own".

My reply was, "...their behavior is against ALPAs Code of Ethics, and therefore, ALPA should act accordingly. PERIOD."

What I hear is that the few involved are working with their former regional schedulers who now work for FDX.

Another rumor I heard is that BM called over to scheduler manager and inquired about this issue. He was told, "You manage your pilots, I'll manage my schedulers". Bottom line, trips still get filled so who cares.

It's BLATANTLY obvious...TRIPS ARE FRZ until these dudes are in a position to pick them up.

Look who keeps getting the charters...we know who you are fellas...

Maddawg71

We all need to contact our Union Rep. I did. The OTP clock getting reset is a "glitch" that can be corrected. However, the union needs to get the company to fix the scheduling software. If the MEC hears from enough crew members about this, it can gain some traction.