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Old 02-12-2014, 05:45 AM
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Dang it! I just locked myself out of PFC by accident, I entered the wrong password, now I can't pick anything up....hmmmmmmm......
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Old 02-12-2014, 05:53 AM
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Maybe these guys will accidentally lock themselves out of PFC before each frozen charter. Let's just hope they are clumsy with the keyboard.

In my opinion the actions of these fellas can be considered union busting
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:50 AM
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I would think they aren't doing this on their own. I'm thinking they have help from buddies in scheduling.
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I thought once you dropped an OTP trip, it just went into makeup and you lost your OTP. Guess I was wrong.

I'm not sure how a scheduler can help someone earlier time stamp, unless they are putting it in from their end, and that seems like it would be easily traceable. I never understood the frozen thing. If the trip isn't available, why even put it into open time at all?

The one weird thing I've seen schedulers do two times, was hold a trip back that was supposed to go into sick time release. Then when I called then 20-25 minutes later, asking them where that trip was because it should have been available, they put me on hold, then a few minutes later said ,"Okay, it's in there now." Of course the entire hold time I was pushing the enter button every couple of seconds, and both times managed to get earlier time stamped by the same guy. Which was impossible, as one time he couldn't have used OTP as he was on sick leave, and would have to pick it up on sick makeup (less priority than regular makeup, or at least equal). That really ****ed me off.
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Old 02-12-2014, 12:42 PM
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A front end DH HNL trip just went to a calendar blocker and another individual who flies 85% extra pairings mostly going to HNL.

If ALPA won't police it's own how the hell do we trust them to police the company. The company is loving the dysfunction amongst the ranks. Credibility is on the line
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:08 PM
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Can anyone publish EVERY trip we are talking about? If these guys are doing this all the time, it is a complete breach of ethics.
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Old 02-12-2014, 02:55 PM
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Chrtrs 2234/21, 2236/21 also.
Please post the Trips/dates of alleged fraud doers.
That is the angle the Union needs to go with......FRAUD. And bribery of the co-conspirators in Scheds.
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Old 02-12-2014, 03:06 PM
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It's also, in a very real way, an abrogation of seniority. You have, in some cases, very junior pilots flying better schedules with better pay than those senior to them. If that is done by diligence, wits, and hard work then by all means, carry on. If it is done by collusion, deceit, and trickery not available to every pilot in the process then it is effing your bros.
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Old 02-12-2014, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by busdriver12 View Post
I thought once you dropped an OTP trip, it just went into makeup and you lost your OTP. Guess I was wrong.

I'm not sure how a scheduler can help someone earlier time stamp, unless they are putting it in from their end, and that seems like it would be easily traceable. I never understood the frozen thing. If the trip isn't available, why even put it into open time at all?
No you still have the OTP, but the way you mention it would be the fair way for it to be.

As far as earlier time stamp. This is speculation as to it actually happening but a scheduler could freeze a trip until the second their buddy is ready to pick it up then process the trade immediately. This is creating defacto OTP in that they are the only crew member who can get it because only they know the precise second. Hopefully this isn't the case because this would warrant terminations
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Old 02-12-2014, 03:39 PM
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This has been going on for YEARS and I'm sick and tired of it. I'm ready to post the names of the SCUMBAGS on here!!!
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