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Old 07-05-2010, 08:29 PM   #1  
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This whole thing just gets more and more interesting. Here's a story from the perspective of the little guy.

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BILLINGS, Mont. In the multibillion dollar world of overnight package deliveries, Mike Overstreet knows his Billings-based company, Corporate Air, is at the "tail end of the dog" as a small FedEx contractor serving rural areas of the Rockies and Midwest.

Yet with FedEx engaged in a fierce Washington, D.C., lobbying battle with the industry's other private sector titan United Parcel Service Overstreet worries his business and customers in 10 states could go down as collateral damage.

At issue is whether FedEx Express, the company's delivery division, should be reclassified as a trucking company, like UPS, or retain its federally granted status as an airline.

If FedEx loses its special status under a measure now before Congress, its employees could more easily unionize. That in turn could drive up costs for the Memphis, Tenn.-based company, forcing it to trim services in rural areas where costs are highest and profit margins thinnest, said shipping industry expert Satish Jindel.

Bill could cost FedEx service to rural areas - Business - U.S. business - msnbc.com
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This is BS. I flew, in a past life, for a large Part 135 cargo outfit that flew for UPS. I flew to many small to very small destinations. If Brown can do it, why can't Purple do it?

I still remember dropping off boxes to a brown lock box in Eureka, NV. There was a runway, but no taxiway, a very small ramp about the size of 2 BE-99, a hangar that was falling to pieces and a large, brown steel box.
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JJP,

Don't get your panties in a wad over this, because it's just conjecture on the part of the author, at least for right now. Didn't your mother ever tell you, "don't panic early"??

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It's a blantant attempt to get folks scared about the right of workers to unionize. FedEx is trying to avoid having their drivers unionize. UPS drivers are teamsters and they seem to be doing just fine.
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See, there you have it. There really ARE two sides to every story.
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It's a blantant attempt to get folks scared about the right of workers to unionize. FedEx is trying to avoid having their drivers unionize. UPS drivers are teamsters and they seem to be doing just fine.
Obviously, you are blatantly prejudiced against Purple. As has been mentioned many times before, this is not a Union vs "no union" issue. It is purely a RLA vice NLRA issue. There is no problem unionizing under the RLA, as the presence of FPA and then ALPA among our pilot force indicates. Would Fred rather not have unions here? Sure, but anyone is free to come in and organize under the current rules. They just have to do it nationwide, instead of piecemeal. The mechanics almost did it, but Fred bought their support with hefty pay raises. Nothing illegal there. Just business. If the Teamsters want to come in and give it a shot, fine. However, they, in my opinion, having seen them try to unionize one carrier I was at, are just a bunch of thugs full of of BS promises, and anyone who votes them in deserves what they get.
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1. This is BS. I flew, in a past life, for a large Part 135 cargo outfit that flew for UPS. I flew to many small to very small destinations. If Brown can do it, why can't Purple do it?

2. I still remember dropping off boxes to a brown lock box in Eureka, NV. There was a runway, but no taxiway, a very small ramp about the size of 2 BE-99, a hangar that was falling to pieces and a large, brown steel box.
Answers: 1. Just because UPS does it does not mean that FedEx has to do it. 2. I remember that "brown lock box" in Eureka, NV... it wasn't a lock box you dummy, it was a well used outhouse.

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It's a blantant attempt to get folks scared about the right of workers to unionize. FedEx is trying to avoid having their drivers unionize. UPS drivers are teamsters and they seem to be doing just fine.
Yesterday I went out and shamelessly bought my wife some flowers. My blatant attempt at getting some poontang. Needless to say, much like FedEx, my wife was wise to my blatant attempt and rejected my offer to unionize. Guess what, I'll survive. So will UPS and FedEx.

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I thought most of the ground Fed Ex drivers were independent contractors anyways.. I know they are around here.... as I know several of them.
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I thought most of the ground Fed Ex drivers were independent contractors anyways.. I know they are around here.... as I know several of them.

Are they pi$$ed at the world and can you tell them by the black thundercloud floating over their heads?

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This whole thing just gets more and more interesting. Here's a story from the perspective of the little guy.
Like how Corporate Air (Mike Overstreet) says he will be pinched out if FDX becomes Unionized. Wonder what he will say when FDX combines air and ground. Either way it will happen. If FDX RLA status changes it will be sooner than later thats all. He can bleed purple when that FDX pup trailer full of ground and air goes by his plane advertised on aerotrader.
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