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tennesseeflyboy 03-13-2014 04:17 AM

Postal contract stuff
 
Have not seen much day flying for a long while, looks like other aircraft don't have it either .............. Does anyone know if the Postal revenue is being trucked or transported via rail, instead of being flown ? The question begs a deeper explanation but don't want to ask it on this forum however it seems that the last go around of Postal contract afforded us a lot of daytime flying albeit we were in a much better economy ................ What say you ???

L'il J.Seinfeld 03-13-2014 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by tennesseeflyboy (Post 1601176)
Have not seen much day flying for a long while, looks like other aircraft don't have it either .............. Does anyone know if the Postal revenue is being trucked or transported via rail, instead of being flown ? The question begs a deeper explanation but don't want to ask it on this forum however it seems that the last go around of Postal contract afforded us a lot of daytime flying albeit we were in a much better economy ................ What say you ???

You can thank UPS. Your margins are thinner and they're seeking out the cheapest way to truck it.

FDXLAG 03-13-2014 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by tennesseeflyboy (Post 1601176)
Have not seen much day flying for a long while, looks like other aircraft don't have it either .............. Does anyone know if the Postal revenue is being trucked or transported via rail, instead of being flown ? The question begs a deeper explanation but don't want to ask it on this forum however it seems that the last go around of Postal contract afforded us a lot of daytime flying albeit we were in a much better economy ................ What say you ???

About half the 76 flying is day flying.

Full pull 03-13-2014 10:32 AM

I'm glad we're not losing any of that crapy night flying on the bus.

tennesseeflyboy 03-16-2014 05:23 AM

The Airbus has lost virtually ALL of its daytime flying ................ where did it go ???
I realize that other airframes have taken some of it, such as the MD flying.
But if you look at the other airframes bidpacks and what has been awarded, there is not that much daytime flying around ................. I suspect that what I have been hearing is true to form, that Company is moving the mail contract revenue using other methods ................. we are not seeing the traditional flight schedules that existed the first time around with the Postal contract, for sure. I heard of a train going out of Memphis the other day that was loaded full of our revenue ................ Union Question : Does our scope policy allow for such movement of revenue outside of flying it ???

FDXLAG 03-16-2014 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by tennesseeflyboy (Post 1603157)
The Airbus has lost virtually ALL of its daytime flying ................ where did it go ???
I realize that other airframes have taken some of it, such as the MD flying.
But if you look at the other airframes bidpacks and what has been awarded, there is not that much daytime flying around ................. I suspect that what I have been hearing is true to form, that Company is moving the mail contract revenue using other methods ................. we are not seeing the traditional flight schedules that existed the first time around with the Postal contract, for sure. I heard of a train going out of Memphis the other day that was loaded full of our revenue ................ Union Question : Does our scope policy allow for such movement of revenue outside of flying it ???

As a general statement, scope talks about operating aircraft not moving freight. Talk to the SIG they would know.

MEMbrain 03-16-2014 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by tennesseeflyboy (Post 1603157)
The Airbus has lost virtually ALL of its daytime flying ................ where did it go ???
I realize that other airframes have taken some of it, such as the MD flying.
But if you look at the other airframes bidpacks and what has been awarded, there is not that much daytime flying around ................. I suspect that what I have been hearing is true to form, that Company is moving the mail contract revenue using other methods ................. we are not seeing the traditional flight schedules that existed the first time around with the Postal contract, for sure. I heard of a train going out of Memphis the other day that was loaded full of our revenue ................ Union Question : Does our scope policy allow for such movement of revenue outside of flying it ???


Yes it does and here's a novel concept..... Try reading the contract and see what it says about scope. If the railroads are taking "our" revenue, does that make them pseudo "scabs"?

The real answer is the new postal contract has lower margins, so the company is using other (cheaper) modes than air to transport volume.
There is intense pressure on the FDX BOD to increase margins and you will continue to see express volume siphoned off to other cheaper methods where service can still be met. Oh, you can thank UPS of that!

Pakagecheck 03-16-2014 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1601383)
About half the 76 flying is day flying.

Sooo, about 8 lines are day flying.

FDXLAG 03-16-2014 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by Pakagecheck (Post 1603184)
Sooo, about 8 lines are day flying.

Lets not get carried away. Only 2 ATL lines are day flying 2 ATL lines are night flying. The other 12 lines have some day and night flying.

Pakagecheck 03-16-2014 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1603288)
Lets not get carried away. Only 2 ATL lines are day flying 2 ATL lines are night flying. The other 12 lines have some day and night flying.

I had to get the shot in now. In a couple of years when I'm typin, the 11 had 2 day lines and some mix........:eek:


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