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billsaw 07-21-2017 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by Miso (Post 2397597)
Which doesn't make it any less offensive and demonstrably wrong...
I am selected to do my civic duty, and am punished by having my pay cut in half while those who are selected to show up at court for the exact same job are compensated at 100%?...How would the Union negotiators respond if some were paid their full salary while others were paid half their salary?...
If this is a settlement then the Union needs to take responsibility for their failure to negotiate a rational settlement and set up a fund from the thousands of dollars each of us pay in dues to cover this and similar situations where the Company negotiators clearly won.

I am not arguing that based on your contract you are or aren't owed money.

If it states that you are to be paid for jury duty you should be paid. The way I read that it seemed like full pay.

But to imply that you doing your "civic duty" should cost your employer is a joke. Civic duty is done pro bono. Or am I missing something?

Now again before you flame me if it was negotiated to be paid it should be.

Just don't try to roll to high and mighty that your called to do your community service for the people. Then cry because your company won't pay you because you didn't work.

In other words how is your civic duty your companies burden? All things being equal.

One last time. If they are supposed to pay they should.

Miso 07-24-2017 09:12 AM

"In other words how is your civic duty your companies burden? All things being equal."

Because it's the law:
Tennessee Statute 22-4-106

(a), the employee shall be entitled to the employee’s usual compensation received from such employment; however, the employer has the discretion to deduct the amount of the fee or compensation the employee receives for serving as a juror. Moreover, no employer shall be required to compensate an employee for more time than was actually spent serving and traveling to and from jury duty. If an employer employs less than five (5) people on a regular basis or if the juror has been employed by an employer on a temporary basis for less than six (6) months, the employer is not required to compensate the juror during the period of jury service pursuant to this section.

billsaw 07-25-2017 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by Miso (Post 2399157)
"In other words how is your civic duty your companies burden? All things being equal."

Because it's the law:
Tennessee Statute 22-4-106

(a), the employee shall be entitled to the employee’s usual compensation received from such employment; however, the employer has the discretion to deduct the amount of the fee or compensation the employee receives for serving as a juror. Moreover, no employer shall be required to compensate an employee for more time than was actually spent serving and traveling to and from jury duty. If an employer employs less than five (5) people on a regular basis or if the juror has been employed by an employer on a temporary basis for less than six (6) months, the employer is not required to compensate the juror during the period of jury service pursuant to this section.


I guess FDX didn't get the memo.

Sluggo_63 07-28-2017 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by billsaw (Post 2399767)
I guess FDX didn't get the memo.

Well, I think the sticking point is what is considered "reporting for jury duty"?

FedEx will pay 100% for any trips where you are required to be at the courthouse.


Originally Posted by CBA 25.Y.3
3. Jury service will be pay protected as follows:
a. For jury service in which the pilot’s personal attendance at the courthouse or other juror assembly location is required (“in-person jury service”):
i. The Company shall pay a pilot 100% of the CH value of each scheduled trip or R-day removed as a result of a conflict with the pilot’s period of in-person jury service, which period begins at the time the pilot is required to first attend court and ends upon the pilot’s release from in-person jury service by the court.

It's the call in jury-duty that's paid at half-price. I wonder what the ruling would be on that if anyone ever pressed-to-test it in court, since the TN statute states:

Originally Posted by Tennessee Code 22-4-106
(a)(1) Upon receiving a summons to report for jury duty, any employee shall, on the next day the employee is engaged in the employee's employment, exhibit the summons to the employee's immediate superior, and the employer shall thereupon excuse the employee from employment for each day the employee's service as a juror in any court of the United States or this state exceeds three (3) hours.

So the determination would be what is "report for jury duty" and does having to call in the morning constitute "service as a juror ... exceed(ing) three hours."

I would say they are following the letter of the law. Now we all know, it's impossible to call in for TN jury duty in the morning when you have just landed in Des Moines after hubturning all night, so you are in a square corner. You can't go to work because you have to be phone available, but you're only getting half pay fro something you probably should be getting full pay for.

I'd be interested to see what the courts would rule if anyone ever pushed this issue.


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