[QUOTE=UPSierra;1644136]Really? Everyone on the property was offered a position to serve in management?

Yeah, really. I've gotten dozens of letters, as have all the line pilots, asking me to apply for a NURP slot. We get them once a year, and they get thrown out with the rest of the junk mail.

 

Every line pilot gets a letter in the mail every year to "join management", how could you not know this?

 

This whole nurp issue doesn't bother me at all anymore, I am only a 14th fo instead of a 14th captain partly because of the nurps

 

Yep, add me to the list of posters with a stack of yearly invites. You're not that special.

Business leader?!?!?!? Holy smokes is that funny!! NURPS do not make any business decisions at UPS or its 'airline' other than finding ways to cut catering and quality of hotels.

Funny how the former VP of Flight Ops (pilot) was replaced by a boxhead lawyer. Fact is there is no upward progression for the NURPS within UPS.

As far as opportunities elsewhere in aviation, wrong again. I'm pretty sure all airlines have a management structure, in which said managers have a seniority number and can move between management and the line if desired. Also the potential for upward movement at real airlines can be much higher than at UPS. At TWA for example, an ALPA member made it all the way to CEO. As a NURP at UPS all you will do is clean toilets and antagonize the line pilots about sick calls.


What's missing at those airlines is this nasty culture of animosity that UPS fosters between the two groups due to conflict of interest, which has a detrimental affect on safety culture.

If it wasn't for the efforts of the IPA, you would still be making $60,000 a year.



It has been mentioned by a few outsiders in the other thread that the word 'scab' should not be diminished. I don't think the rest of the industry has a full grasp of the situation at UPS. Scabs are horrible scum and their actions are detrimental to the profession. At UPS the presence of NURPS are just as detrimental to the UPS line pilots because they continuously undermine the contract and their existence has caused 109 guys to be furloughed much longer than need be. But unlike a strike which may last a few weeks or a few months, this crap has been going on at UPS for 25 continuous years. Therefore NURPS are worse than scabs IMHO. They are the worst leeches possible.


So for those of you on the outside considering these positions, realize what they really are and how you would be viewed by your peers.

 

And you know who you can thank for that.......

 

Well stated, JDawg

 

Sounds just like a scab trying to reason his way out of screwing people over for personal gain, f-ck you scab

 

This is hiring only for ANC. UPS AND IPA are on the same page.

 

Also, if a pax Cpt. were to deny a UPS mgt Cpt a Jumpseat because he considered him a scab would really muddy the waters.

 

You don't know what you're talking about.