They are not scabs, but they have volunteered to be.
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True enough Frontseat. The point is to understand that UPS managers are not automatically SCABs. However, their acceptance of the position places them in jeopardy of becoming SCABs. You and I probably understand this, more information for the masses.
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Is the issue between the union and the company the reason this job continues to be advertised? From the reading of the thread a current line pilot who applied for and accepted this position would no longer be represented by the union. Is that correct? If so, it would seem to be counterproductive to intentionally exclude a portion of the employee group. In my union experience we had to fight to get the management pilots to join and pay dues. To each his own I guess.
I do not buy into the scab argument. A scab is someone who crosses the picket line and does work the MEC has defined as struck work. Any other use of the word for personal benefit belittles its significance. Aside from the union issues, and yes I do understand they are significant, are there any other reasons a current line pilot would not want this position? Pay, quality of life, retirement benefits, etc.? Regards, Jim Flight Qualified Supervisor Anchorage, AK Job ID: 59599 apply Flight Qualified Supervisor Location: Anchorage (ANC) or Louisville (SDF) JOB DESCRIPTION: Successful applicants will certify as a Flight Qualified Captain on one of the UPS fleet types. Duties will include check airman/instructor activities for UPS crewmembers in simulator training. Line operations/Assistant Chief Pilot positions will be based on experience levels and qualifications. Potential for advancement and other Flight Operations duties exists. Competitive compensation package. |
Originally Posted by acebaxter
(Post 1773090)
Is the issue between the union and the company the reason this job continues to be advertised? From the reading of the thread a current line pilot who applied for and accepted this position would no longer be represented by the union. Is that correct? If so, it would seem to be counterproductive to intentionally exclude a portion of the employee group. In my union experience we had to fight to get the management pilots to join and pay dues. To each his own I guess.
I do not buy into the scab argument. A scab is someone who crosses the picket line and does work the MEC has defined as struck work. Any other use of the word for personal benefit belittles its significance. Aside from the union issues, and yes I do understand they are significant, are there any other reasons a current line pilot would not want this position? Pay, quality of life, retirement benefits, etc.? Regards, Jim Flight Qualified Supervisor Anchorage, AK Job ID: 59599 apply Flight Qualified Supervisor Location: Anchorage (ANC) or Louisville (SDF) JOB DESCRIPTION: Successful applicants will certify as a Flight Qualified Captain on one of the UPS fleet types. Duties will include check airman/instructor activities for UPS crewmembers in simulator training. Line operations/Assistant Chief Pilot positions will be based on experience levels and qualifications. Potential for advancement and other Flight Operations duties exists. Competitive compensation package. |
I'm not saying it's not. And, I'm not trying to start a mud throwing fight. But, serious question for my UPS brothers. Without slandering every other labor union...What is it that makes the IPA "the greatest union on earth"?
Your contract? Your structure? Your dues? We tried the independent route at FDX. And, it was a colossal failure. Obviously, not so at UPS. What is the IPA doing, or done, that makes it such a success, in your eyes. |
Originally Posted by brownie
(Post 1773288)
Jim thank you for the offer but no thank you.
Jim |
Originally Posted by Busboy
(Post 1773302)
I'm not saying it's not. And, I'm not trying to start a mud throwing fight. But, serious question for my UPS brothers. Without slandering every other labor union...What is it that makes the IPA "the greatest union on earth"?
Your contract? Your structure? Your dues? We tried the independent route at FDX. And, it was a colossal failure. Obviously, not so at UPS. What is the IPA doing, or done, that makes it such a success, in your eyes. |
So lets get this straight. 17 years ago the FQM pilots tried to join the IPA but got rejected by the union, company and court ? Now you guys want to call them scabs? Good luck ,no wonder I have trouble paying my dues every month....
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Originally Posted by filejw
(Post 1773419)
So lets get this straight. 17 years ago the FQM pilots tried to join the IPA but got rejected by the union, company and court ? Now you guys want to call them scabs? Good luck ,no wonder I have trouble paying my dues every month....
So were a couple of numbers worth it? |
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