UPS/FedEx Typical Schedules
01-13-2007 | 07:40 PM
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From: 757 Capt
fnp/pnf
Yes...we have had fly no pay and pay no fly for as long as I can remember. It comes in handy for getting home or allowing a js a guaranteed window seat on the tough cities (DFW/EWR/ONT). I guess we take it for granted now, but if ups has the technology to allow this, fedex with computer trip trades should be a no brainer. Only problem is that they will probably expect you to give up something to get this no brainer item.
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01-13-2007 | 11:12 PM
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Both of the above weeks of flying would begin in MEM with a deadhead to DSM (on the same deadhead flight, even), both would be in the hotel in DSM the same times, and both would deadhead back to MEM on the same flights. However, the week with MEM hubturns is 5 separate trips, with no per diem or duty paid while in between trips (the hub turn). The week of flying that does hubturns in IND is one single trip, paying per diem, duty, and TAFB throughout.
Advantages/disadvantages to both -- and since we have a wide range of preferences, it works out to make more people happy.
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Advantages/disadvantages to both -- and since we have a wide range of preferences, it works out to make more people happy.
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Except all that is about to change very drastically in the coming months.................or so that is the word on the street!....
01-13-2007 | 11:16 PM
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Another difference to these sequences will be evident when the new trip rig kicks in - the week of IND hubturns will pay approx. .4CHs a day more than the week of MEM hubturns.
01-14-2007 | 12:39 AM
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01-14-2007 | 07:28 AM
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From: Retired UPS 767 Captain, SDF Z
Does UPS still allow someone other than the pilot awarded a trip, to fly the last leg of that trip into domicile? The example is a trip that operates from SDF to an out-city, then has a weekend layover, then operates Monday night back into SDF. You guys used to be able to bump the operating pilot, and instead of jumpseating, operate the Monday night leg. Saved on time and money for the guy getting bumped, assuming he lived in the out-city, and at the same time, allowed the guy bumping to be listed as a crewmember and not a jumpseater. Sure wish we had that ability, but our crew scheduling has always maintained that it's too difficult for the computer to handle. Yeah, right.
Although, I don't get any pay, I do get any per diem, overrides and commercial tickets (there was one on the back end of this one legged trip). All in all, a great deal!But, if I was sick, or didn't show, the pay no fly guy is still responsible for covering the trip
01-14-2007 | 09:01 AM
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From: MD-11 galley operator
Yes, the FNP/PNF option works really well for most scenerios. I just did a FNP (fly, no pay) for another MD11 Captain on one leg just before Christmas. He lives in CO, so he didn't have to come into SDF to start the trip, and I got THE window seat, instead of the jumpseat going to where I wanted to spend the holidays. Although, I don't get any pay, I do get any per diem, overrides and commercial tickets (there was one on the back end of this one legged trip). All in all, a great deal!
But, if I was sick, or didn't show, the pay no fly guy is still responsible for covering the trip
Although, I don't get any pay, I do get any per diem, overrides and commercial tickets (there was one on the back end of this one legged trip). All in all, a great deal!But, if I was sick, or didn't show, the pay no fly guy is still responsible for covering the trip
Small world.
01-14-2007 | 11:16 AM
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01-14-2007 | 12:49 PM
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From: FedEx
Does UPS still allow someone other than the pilot awarded a trip, to fly the last leg of that trip into domicile? The example is a trip that operates from SDF to an out-city, then has a weekend layover, then operates Monday night back into SDF. You guys used to be able to bump the operating pilot, and instead of jumpseating, operate the Monday night leg. Saved on time and money for the guy getting bumped, assuming he lived in the out-city, and at the same time, allowed the guy bumping to be listed as a crewmember and not a jumpseater. Sure wish we had that ability, but our crew scheduling has always maintained that it's too difficult for the computer to handle. Yeah, right.
I can't blame the company for that one.
FJ
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