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MaxKts 01-16-2007 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by slaveship (Post 103481)
I will take the crusty more mature backseater that I can count on come approach time vs the twenty something backseater while on a no kidding 600rvr approach into LAX who at the 500' gpws call is writing a letter to her boyfriend while looking sideways........

So did you just let her continue writing? And how did you get to 500' and not realize your FE was not into the fight?

MD11Fr8Dog 01-16-2007 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Jetjok (Post 103419)
It's like the guy who invented the wheel. We all have to thank him, because without him, there'd be no beer truck.:)

Yea, but that guy has a big chip on his shoulder and is in thereapy now!;)

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MD11Fr8Dog 01-16-2007 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by slaveship (Post 103481)
I will take the crusty more mature backseater that I can count on come approach time vs the twenty something backseater while on a no kidding 600rvr approach into LAX who at the 500' gpws call is writing a letter to her boyfriend while looking sideways........


Hmmmm, is there a story here?:eek:

duvie 01-16-2007 02:22 PM

Once heard from a CA while I was on the jumpseat:

Yea, I can finally hold Atlanta CA, but it will be years before I can hold LAX FE

viktorbravo 01-16-2007 06:49 PM

Yeah the napping in the airplane thing has always been a hot item, not to mention illegal per the feds (although I have not found it written anywhere.) Can anyone point us to FAR XXX.XXX or OPS Scec whatever that says sleeping in the cockpit is not allowed and will result in severe disciplinary action up to and including termination and the loss of your license?

However, and not that I would know anything about it, but it seems that a controlled (read, mutually agreed upon with all crewmembers) 20 minute nap at altitude would make for a much safer approach and landing. NASA thinks so, but what do I know I just fly night freight for a living..........

ABK MAN 01-17-2007 01:48 AM

so, besides sleepin, err examing the back of the eye-lids, what else do you guys do while plugging away at the night sky? Lap-tops? Books? 99 bottles of beer on the wall? 21 questions? . . .

JetJocF14 01-17-2007 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by ABK MAN (Post 103862)
so, besides sleepin, err examing the back of the eye-lids, what else do you guys do while plugging away at the night sky? Lap-tops? Books? 99 bottles of beer on the wall? 21 questions? . . .

Same thing we see you-all do on the tug evernight.............;)

ABK MAN 01-17-2007 05:28 AM

and what would that be? At least you have a door for privacy and a windshield in your cockpit, we roll old school, open cockpit :D

Busboy 01-17-2007 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by ABK MAN (Post 103901)
so, besides sleepin, err examing the back of the eye-lids, what else do you guys do while plugging away at the night sky? Lap-tops? Books? 99 bottles of beer on the wall? 21 questions? :D

I prefer comic books. And, if it's such a long leg that I've read all of them...I like to practice my yodeling. There's nothing like a good yodeling duet at 35,000. Especially, with an open mike at 0430.

And, then I study the FOM for the remainder of the flight.

ExDeltaPilot 01-17-2007 10:08 AM

I thought I'd add my .02 about retirement in general. My first six months with Delta I was on reserve when we were hiring like gangbusters (60/month) was on reserve and never got called - I had enough money, wasn't working and hated it. If a guy is physically capable, can pass the physical, and wants to keep working he should. I have flown with 50 something Captains that couldn't see over their bellies, fell asleep during cruise (every leg) and really had no business flying. On the other hand, I know some 60 and 70 year olds sharper than most of us. I don't ever plan to retire because that is the quickest way to dig your own grave. I would like the "option" to fly past 60 (I'm only 49) and when I get there be able to make the decision. Everyone here should have the same option and you can plan ahead.


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