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Commando 03-20-2015 07:15 AM
Yes. We will continue to get the CFI's and Corporate folks. Like the recent classes indicate.

whalesurfer 03-20-2015 08:39 AM
Originally Posted by UPSFO4LIFE (Post 1846222)
Remember, this is UPS. My fear is that such a huge deal is being made of this issue(which it is), these 24 will never see a day of employment here(which in the long run may be good for them). UPS may just bypass them and choose others in the pool because they know these individuals will always have a bitter view of the company.

Let's sit back, wait for the EB to advise us and move on from there.
All very good points. My union speaks for me!

Loon 03-20-2015 02:29 PM
Originally Posted by Count Dracula (Post 1846095)
These guys gave notice to their previous employers......regardless of the company's dysfunctional hiring and operational process....how about the Union step up and start a fund for these 24 guys? But then again, 8 out 10 guys are probably living beyond their means and would bich to throw in $20 bucks to do the "right thing."
I didn't think that it was possible for UPS pilots to live beyond their means. With all the dough they make and all....yikes!!

CloudSailor 03-20-2015 03:15 PM
Originally Posted by Loon (Post 1846578)
I didn't think that it was possible for UPS pilots to live beyond their means. With all the dough they make and all....yikes!!
This, coming from "Loon", who was very much considering the NURP job, which I'm guessing, he has taken now.

I'm very sorry for the guys/gals caught up in this mess. What a f*()&^ng disgrace, for UPS to treat new-hires that way.

Salukipilot4590 03-20-2015 03:26 PM
Originally Posted by Shaggy1970 (Post 1845875)
Has any company since 9/11 had a confirmed class and then pull the plug and told the would bee's to **** off?
Trans States Airlines - November 2009.

We were recalls though, so not new-hires.

satpak77 03-20-2015 04:38 PM
what about the pilot shortage ?

UPSpilott 03-20-2015 08:08 PM
Originally Posted by satpak77 (Post 1846645)
what about the pilot shortage ?
Doesn't exist when the business model is out-sourcing and parking planes.

UPSpilott 03-20-2015 08:09 PM
Please don't nobody mention scope violations. That scope guy will be here in seconds scolding us that UPS is an honest company.

:eek::eek:

JustUnderPar 03-21-2015 01:31 AM
Originally Posted by Airbum (Post 1846260)
well said, If this delay lasts a while and ruins families i would expect ups skip these poor pilots and find other guys. There is always somebody willing to take the job.
Nope. UPS loves pis*ed off employees. It causes us to focus on how much we dislike our managers (idiots) and do our job.

Once you figure this out, it makes the job easier.

Section Eight 03-21-2015 10:57 AM
If I were part of this group of 24, or even one of the dozen or so that we have in class, I would beg my previous employer to take me back.

I have a bad feeling that we could be in for another salvo of lay offs, as we are knee deep in negotiations, and new hires make the perfect fodder for whatever games they want to play. Just ask any of the 109.

And with our airline within an airline, it makes it all that much easier.

This could be bad, and I hope I'm wrong.

Carry on........


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