Dear Mark2792

See who is being divisive. You guys are free to support whomever you like. Others are not.

Dear Gunter,

What the hell has SEIU ever done to get us a contract. One of the big holdups with our current contract is management playing games. Another holdup is the excise tax on Cadillac Healthcare plans that SEIU and ALPA PAC helped shove down our throats. You can support who you want and believe there is some big labor vs capital struggle going on in the world and I can support who I want and believe there is some big freedom vs crony socialist struggle going on in the world. And we can both work on getting a contract or not, your choice.

And no I do not believe teachers unions and every other public sector union including SEIU has absolutely anything to do with the struggle between labor and Capital. If anything they are on the other side. Me and FDR are crazy that way.

If you think we are like professional athletes you are dreaming. Didn't know the Bar Association and the AMA collective bargain for their members.

As you've noticed, corporate democrats are total scumbags. They claim they are for the people but are paid by big business to hold back on changes they want for their loyal voters. Noticing politician misdeeds doesn't lend any support to treating labor poorly.

Yeah, it's all about you. What has SEIU done for you.

More strategic minds might think about adopting a wider view.

The membership of a union/political party is different than a certain leader. I'm unhappy ALPA national supported age 65 retro. the majority of ALPA didn't want to go that direction but the union leadership did. Knowing that I would still be angry if someone blacked out ALPA symbols everywhere. That's offensive.

Yes, corporate democrats fooled their membership (Dr. Gruber stated as much) into supporting a big tax for healthcare. Now most (especially lower income and working) democratic voters are unhappy with it. Politicians are trying desperately to distance themselves from Obamacare because they know they're screwed if they get called out on it in their next election.

But Republicans are doing some dastardly things. Like Corker telling workers at the passat plant that VW would cut some jobs if they voted in a union. This was patently false but Corker has not been held accountable for his union busting efforts.

Some of us knew at the time what was going on some of us were clueless. Some still are. The facts are we are a union of highly compensated employees trying to get a contract from an extremely profitable business. How that relates to SEIUs struggle to sneak as many undocumented democrats across the border is beyond explanation.

You are free to not support Corker for your reasons and I am free not to support Corker for my reasons. I am ok with that, you are not. Who is being divisive? Who is being intolerant? Hell who is being political?

And yes if SEIU wants me to wear their lanyard they better be doing something for me. An example of Capitalism otherwise know as freedom.

In the end this is all about nothing.

SEIU on the lanyard means it was made in the U.S. in a union shop. Period.

As in not made in China.

You guys get wrapped about some serious minutia as the company tramples all over us.

Not sure why I have to spell it out but here you go.

Support from other unions is helpful. ****ing them off not so much.

Who is wrapped up about the lanyard? You and zoomie atheist.

If that is your idea of spelling it out I can understand why you were fooled by Obamacare.

LAG - I bet you're wondering why Republicans keep losing to Dems in the Presidential election.