scumby

I worked for American Intl Airways ( aka ) Kalitta for 5 years and ALL airlines are the just the "same circus but different clowns"

METO Guido

Somewhat oversimplified, no? GTI gets business into/out of assignments. Departed for home 3z last week 36D, 9hrs. At some point, my esteemed colleague a row behind leaned over the headrest & said, and I quote, “I’d ***** myself out in a bath house for an upgrade.” Amusing, until you start doing it.

longhauler

Positives
1. Higher Pay
2. Higher match on the 401k
3. Business or BETTER international or over 16 hrs of Duty.
4. a business plan
5. 12 yr payscale not 25.
6. publicly traded not sole owner
7. Profit sharing (not much, but it is there.)
8. A rig! no more back to back to back 1/7's by the illustrious SR and his henchman.
9. a ticket to and from training regardless of days on or off.
10 two fleets and a very real possibility of a third.
11. far less BS from the travel department. As a matter of fact none to-date from
Atlas's. K4's everytime I called it was BS and a cost issue.

Negatives.
1. Much higher healthcare cost.
2. imputed income on travel if you fall into the matrix.
3. less DH credit (has not been a factor to date as CRT more than makes up for it.)

longhauler

In the month of October I will have DH'ed on commercial airlines about 18000 miles. All in business or better, that is a significant increase in my quality of life over K4.

Learflyer

On average, what are you Atlas pilots paying towards that "travel tax" per month? I heard it could be upwards of $300/month.

Also. Including the $1600/month for 2-3 months, what was average first year pay by just making guarantee?

atpcliff

4-5 years ago, Atlas was getting, basically, 0 pilots coming from Kalitta. Now there are a lot of Kalitta applicants trying to get to Atlas.

It varies WIDELY depending on your base and personal situation. I've heard the highest imputed income is for pilots commuting on expensive tickets to/from ANC. If you live in base, or are at a base like JFK, there is very little, if any, imputed income.

dutch747

This has been discussed at length under http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/hi...ir-hiring.html but since that is over 1000 pages of sifting, I'll try to give you the short answer:

So travel is paid by the company from your gateway selected airport (near your home) to your assigned base. And all hotels at your base are paid by the company. Since this is considered "income" you are responsible for paying taxes on said income. So if the company pays $1500 a month for your gateway travel and hotels at the start/end of bidline you are responsible for paying taxes on it cost dependent on your tax bracket (usually around 15%). This is called "Imputed Income".

NOW that being said, the company either willfully or neglectfully does not hit everybody up on imputed income. There are also ways around it like volunteering to take trips before and or after you line ends that take you away from your assigned base. This is very easy and commonly done. Also because a lot of our work is non-sched, your bidline can and probably will change that will take you away from your base. I have not seen my base in two months now.

So the short answer, yes - you could be easily paying $300 a month in taxes from gateway travel if you are one of the unlucky ones who get hit with it.

Guarantee is 50 hours a month, pay is $78 in change, you do the math.

That being said, realistically you will never be at min guarantee unless you call in sick for the entire month. If you never volunteer and work the minimum you will average 80 hrs pay a month.

Training pay is a maximum of 4 months, I would plan on that.

I have too much time on my hands today.

longhauler

None to date, I have managed to avoid it.

3inthegreen

What is the possible 3rd aircraft?

HercDriver130

rumors have flown for years that Atlas will start a 777 program