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Old 11-03-2015 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pipe
This looks like a good way to turn $90 Billion into $45 Billion.

Of all the things in the world to invest in, airlines aren't historically a great choice.

Why would you take a great money printing operation and expose it to fuel prices, terrorism, FAA, ICAO, weather, etc? As it runs now, they are able to pass all blame and risk in those areas on.

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They won't. What you'll see is Amazon going the ACMI or CMI route. It will be like DHL on steroids. Amazon will pit one contractor vs. another to pressure them to continually lower their costs.
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Old 11-03-2015 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Czech Airman
They won't. What you'll see is Amazon going the ACMI or CMI route. It will be like DHL on steroids. Amazon will pit one contractor vs. another to pressure them to continually lower their costs.
Given Bezos is such a highly regarded "progressive", he will of course welcome unions and offer those handling his product THE best compensation and benefit packages....right?

He will demand Part 117 for all!

Get ready for FDX plus all you ACMI guys!

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Old 11-03-2015 | 01:35 PM
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Given Bezos is such a highly regarded "progressive", he will of course welcome unions and offer those handling his product THE best compensation and benefit packages....right?

Get ready for FDX plus all you ACMI guys!
A portfolio of contractors will give Amazon the flexibility needed to take on FedEx and UPS.
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Old 11-03-2015 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Czech Airman
A portfolio of contractors will give Amazon the flexibility needed to take on FedEx and UPS.
And seeing how swell Bezos is, offer top pay and benefits...out of his own pocket!

Wow...maybe I'll quit and sign up!
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Old 11-03-2015 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by brownie
Ups airline was created when there were no cell phones smart tv Google Facebook Twitter and so on . you can't simply reinvent wheel from 1987 in 2015. if you don't belive me go ask Eastern and pan am guys.
Yeah, this ain't 1911; who does Sam Walton think he is, going head to head with the mighty F.W. Woolworth?
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Old 11-03-2015 | 03:35 PM
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If Amazon wants to create its own nationwide warehouse-to-customer delivery network, I imagine they believe doing so will allow them to provide better service at lower prices than the Big 3 established parcel service (USPS, FDX, UPS).

Can they develop such a delivery network? I'm sure they could, but the Capex required to develop the infrastructure to get there would be astronomical.

Could they do it such that they eclipse any of the above carriers in volume in just *two* years? Absolutely positively not, and anybody who suggests otherwise needs a whiz quiz.
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Old 11-04-2015 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
If Amazon wants to create its own nationwide warehouse-to-customer delivery network, I imagine they believe doing so will allow them to provide better service at lower prices than the Big 3 established parcel service (USPS, FDX, UPS).

Can they develop such a delivery network? I'm sure they could, but the Capex required to develop the infrastructure to get there would be astronomical.

Could they do it such that they eclipse any of the above carriers in volume in just *two* years? Absolutely positively not, and anybody who suggests otherwise needs a whiz quiz.
Sure! Where would they find a sort facility, just lying dormant; and a workforce population just waiting for jobs? Those Amazon guys are just SO naive!
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Old 11-04-2015 | 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Spike from flyi
Sure! Where would they find a sort facility, just lying dormant; and a workforce population just waiting for jobs? Those Amazon guys are just SO naive!
A nationwide warehouse-to-customer delivery network requires much, much, MUCH more than just an empty ILN air sort facility.
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Old 11-04-2015 | 04:23 AM
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Amazon can buy FDX, plain and simple. Just check out their market capitalizations.
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Old 11-04-2015 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BizPilot
Amazon can buy FDX, plain and simple. Just check out their market capitalizations.
Not out of the question, but what would happen then? Would FDX gain or lose customers? The joke about how to become a millionaire comes to mind.
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