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GetRealDude 10-31-2015 05:36 PM

CRS Trip Trade Nonsense Continues
 
This issue alone is one of the biggest negatives from the previous CBA and now the current one effective 11/2/15. Unchanged. Pathetic. Frustrating.

Real time trip trading is not complicated in principle. PMU is the problem. This needs to be resolved in an LOA post haste. PMU is a relatively rare occurrence.

Personally, I feel it should have no expiration date at 125%. Call it Premium Make-Up instead of priority. Still PMU but will have no impact on Open Time or the sweet (Wolfpack only) charters. You get the trip or you don't. No expiration whatsoever in PMU bank.

I just admonished a scheduler for unsat delays in running trip trades, makeup, etc. I asked what the problem was? I was told there is no set time for processing. It's on a time permitting basis. Does that mean after smoke breaks, halftime of SEC games or what?

It's a half-assed operation from a CRS standpoint. So many examples of mediocrity that I'm left SMH. It seems a win-win for company and crew force if this is corrected.

Make it happen. Or not.
ALPA needs to get their arse in gear on this folks. Just tie it into the upcoming retirement LOA. Wait ... it's going to happen right?

Call CRS when any delay over 30 minutes occurs. I've done it numerous times. Amazing how it gets done within 5 minutes after the call. I do my job, they can do theirs in a timely manner. Remind them.

Nightflyer 10-31-2015 05:40 PM

I hope you voted no.

Another rant topic is "insufficient reserves".

I am told that scheduling loads up the open time with standby's that they never intend to fill, so that they can deny all trip drops and trades.

If this is true, the union needs to grieve it, immediately.

Don't blame me, I voted no.

I need a lanyard that says exactly that. I have a feeling I'll need it.

GetRealDude 10-31-2015 05:46 PM

I'm a definite NO vote as many here know.

The reindeer games played with dumping STBYs into open time around holidays and peak is standard SOP. Why do they do it? Because they can. No checks and balances. No recourse. Grieving is a joke. When was the last time we actually WON a substantive grievance?

Control, manipulation, and fear is how this place rolls.

I simply expect people to do their jobs. I sure as hell do mine.

C17MooseDriver 10-31-2015 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by GetRealDude (Post 2003397)
I'm a definite NO vote as many here know.

The reindeer games played with dumping STBYs into open time around holidays and peak is standard SOP. Why do they do it? Because they can. No checks and balances. No recourse. Grieving is a joke. When was the last time we actually WON a substantive grievance?

Control, manipulation, and fear is how this place rolls.

I simply expect people to do their jobs. I sure as hell do mine.

They've been dumping stbys all year to make up for the shortfall, not just peak anymore. And those stby violate the intent of the Max OT LOA, which this upcoming CBA did not fix or address.

Grieving is a joke because Contract Enforcement is a joke. They need to be replaced by people who are willing and ready to fight for what's in the CBA.

GetRealDude 10-31-2015 06:56 PM

I place this task squarely on the shoulders of the MEC and the MEC chairman. Business as usual has become untenable.

Make the necessary changes and aggressively pursue real time trip trading. It's beyond time. Hmmm ... I've heard that before.

CloudSailor 10-31-2015 08:10 PM

GetRealDude, spot on.

The lack of real time trip trading after 4 years of negotiations was IMO the second biggest failure, after Retirement, in this contract.

The only way I can rationalize it not being a showstopper for the majority is that we have such a large percentage of military guys who have never worked under RTTT and the amazing QOL it affords.

Working under fully transparent RTTT changes everything, for junior and senior alike. These trip trades taking any more than what should be at most a few minutes, combined with the insufficient reserves and earlier time stamp nonsense are here for another decade. It sucks.

FrontSeat 10-31-2015 09:37 PM

What company? PennAir? Skywest?

busdriver12 10-31-2015 09:49 PM

Hard to believe they ignored pilots requests for real time trip trading, and decided not to even ask for it.

VSTOLG4 11-01-2015 12:02 AM

They explained very clearly during the roadshow that RTTT was going to negate PMU. The "team" was not willing to lose PMU benefits and that made RTTT impossible.

iarapilot 11-01-2015 12:04 AM

Hard to believe a lot of things about this contract!:confused:


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