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Busboy 12-01-2015 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Kougarok (Post 2019244)
Waaaaaah!!!!


Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 2019267)
Seriously? Are you a new hire? You didn't even check for the flight booking? You can ALWAYS be booked in economy under previous contract and guess, what, under any future contract. Even if you rate first, if it's not available you won't get it. There is no way the Company would ever change that - come on. You sound like a prima donna, unless you are a new hire.


Originally Posted by Unknown Rider (Post 2019301)
Why is this thread titled "Lie flat seats"? It sucks yes, but it has been happening to guys on reserve forever. Even if there are First Class seats available, most times they can put you in coach if there are no discounted seats available. Nothing new here.

This attitude is the reason we will never get the crappy parts of our contract fixed. Just because it's always been like that?

Unbelievable! Not really, though.:(

Czech Airman 12-01-2015 09:24 AM

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Even your "lie flat" seats in coach?

I'll send you a bottle of 15YO Laphroig the first time I have to ride coach with a lie flat seat. You've fallen for the "Proponents of Hysteria".
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Looks like hysteria won out over the purple kool aid drinkers.

vc931 12-01-2015 10:08 AM

Last minute booking to ANC on Thanksgiving weekend! First class aint going to be available. I don't care if you're Donald Trump, you're not getting an upgrade, and the gate agents will laugh at you for asking.

navigatro 12-01-2015 10:13 AM

If first class is sold out then what is the company supposed to do?

BTW, no airline has "lie-flat seats" to or from ANC. It is all domestic first recliner style.

Chainsaw 12-01-2015 10:21 AM

A hole's Unite!!!
 

Originally Posted by Kougarok (Post 2019244)
Waaaaaah!!!!

Hey, the contract says if it's over 5 hours you are supposed to fly first class. It's just the contract, buy why follow it?

OBTW, Kokgobbler you are douche.

Chainsaw 12-01-2015 10:24 AM

How about follow the contract!
 

Originally Posted by navigatro (Post 2019581)
If first class is sold out then what is the company supposed to do?

BTW, no airline has "lie-flat seats" to or from ANC. It is all domestic first recliner style.

I don't know, maybe follow the contract?!!!? Pick another flight that does meet the contractual language, not the get out jail free fine print twenty-two rows down lawyer clause that lets the company off the hook time after time.

Yet again, another company man, pillow biting douche!!!

Adlerdriver 12-01-2015 10:24 AM

First, this particular situation has nothing to do with our new contract (other than it wasn't fixed).

So, lessons learned (in case a new hire does find himself in a similar situation):
Be proactive - waiting for global travel to do their job isn't going to make your deadhead go well, especially if you have a Secondary line. If you don't have a ticket when your name is actually on the pairing and you're not deviating, start making calls. In addition, once you have a ticket, get on the airline website, look up your reservation and make sure you actually have a seat (call them if you have to). I've been traveling with other pilots who assumed their unassigned seat would work itself out and got bumped to coach when they checked in.

Finally, if all else fails, a 777 bunk or even an MD11 futon and some Corkys isn't a bad way to get to ANC if your other option is pretzels and a middle seat. There were 7 flights the day before this DH, one the day of and a couple early the next day (depending on how much slop you had in ANC or how badly you wanted the FF miles). I'm not suggesting making a habit of using company jumpseats instead of a proper deadhead but once in a very great while it may be the less painful option.

Raptor 12-01-2015 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by navigatro (Post 2019581)
If first class is sold out then what is the company supposed to do?

BTW, no airline has "lie-flat seats" to or from ANC. It is all domestic first recliner style.

One of the nicest ways to deviate if you live east coast, is Cathy NY to Vancouver, then on the ANC.

navigatro 12-01-2015 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by Raptor (Post 2019676)
One of the nicest ways to deviate if you live east coast, is Cathy NY to Vancouver, then on the ANC.

Is Cathy your girlfriend?

navigatro 12-01-2015 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Chainsaw (Post 2019592)
I don't know, maybe follow the contract?!!!? Pick another flight that does meet the contractual language, not the get out jail free fine print twenty-two rows down lawyer clause that lets the company off the hook time after time.

Yet again, another company man, pillow biting douche!!!

sometimes you have to think and act for yourself.


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