If they called I sure wish they would leave a damn message! I just landed and now have a 3 hour sit.

CONGRATS Dawg. That totally rocks. I wish you the best.

TP

I am just glad they finally called someone who took the assessment before me.;)

Congrats on the call Dawg.

[quote=C17turtle;129677]I got speak with HR today to clarify a few '07 application questions. Basically, if you have an "on file" application in the system you are pretty much done until you are invited to proceed in the the hiring process. That means no updates or resume submissions until you are invited to do so. I take that to mean if your file has gone active, good news is on your way or has already arrived...

I like your take, since mine went active recently, just wondering what you're basing it on. Thanks for any insight.

[quote=Raging white;129867]I have the same inclination about this. I have a friend who was worried to see his App go to "on file" after being active since he put it in... I think that is a good thing... It would seem while they are poking around in it looking at times and using the filters on it, it goes to "on file" and you are not allowed to change anything. When mine went back to active, I got a call within a week or so. Same holds true for my friend. (although a bit longer until his call, but he's neurotic ;-)
Congrats to Dawg and good luck to all on the interview...

If you are updating an application, it is NOT a 2007 app. and you are wasting your time. I personally walked into HR about 2 wks ago and was told that current 2007 apps CANNOT be updated. You are updating your 2006 app and I was told those will do you no good. You must reapply in 2007 to have a shot at it. Who knows tho, maybe the person in HR I talked to doesn't fully understand this new system. Wouldn't surprise me.

I want to change how my last two sentences came across. Not that they (HR) don't understand how it works, just seems weird to me that I was told the 2007 apps can't be updated yet guys on here say they have been able to update their apps.

I never submitted a 2006 app. I put my app in Jan 11, it went to 'on file' and then just went 'active' a few days ago. I am now able to access my app and have put a resume in. Are you saying this is a 2006 app?? I'm confused.

If in your app you were asked if you have flown in foriegn places and you checked those boxes, then you did the 07 app. The 06 app did not ask about your international experience.

Congrats Dawg! Great news on the interview call. Good luck.

anyone not "onfile" to "active"
 

So...

Of those who were "on file"
Has anyone NOT seen their application go from "on file" to "active"... in other words, are there any "on file" people out there, who have never been "active?"

What Keyword for Search
 

Question for you guys who've been able to fill out an '07 app: What keyword did you search for on the ups jobs website. I keep trying "second officer" since that's what the job was advertised as last year, but I've also been trying "first officer" and "pilot" just in case.

So far, nothing available and I've been trying 3-5 times a week for the last couple of months. I even have some internal rec's but it doesn't make a bit of difference if you don't even have an app in.

My app did ask me for intl exp, etc. It also shows as a second officer app.

Then you are good to go. If the only app you've ever submitted was done in 2006 then it's time to reapply when the window opens. Sounds like you did the 2007 version. Sorry to confuse you.

Anybody have an idea when the window's opening again.

I am one of them. I think there are plenty of us out there...Even if there are only a few (100-200 or so) that can get their app in at any one time, you can't expect everyone to be invited to the hiring process--and that's apparently what going "active" means...

mine has been "active" since Jan..still waiting for an online assessment????..I am able to update daily...

No worries...I just got an email yesterday telling me to standby for another email for the online assessment. Anyone know how long it normally takes for the assessment to show up and when it does, are there any "gotchas" with it?

No Gotchas
 

AK15

I got the assessment email a couple of weeks ago. There are no gotchas that I saw. It was weird, though. Some statements (they were all statements that you respond with t/f radio buttons) were pretty straightforward, such as:
I have never deliberately told a lie. There were several statements that were similar. I think the idea is to check to see if the applicant is consistent.

I wouldn't sweat it. I recommend giving honest answers and if they don't like who you are, maybe you'd be better off with someone else.

BTW, I tried to pm you, but have to do a bunch of posts before that's permitted. Perhaps you could PM me if you want some more info. I don't know if I'll be able to respond...

Cheers
B

The application window is closed right now, so no keyword will work :rolleyes: The one UPS has used that I know of in the past is FLIGHT OFFICER.

Hey, just to let you know, I'm in the same boat, got the first email Jan 29th and waiting ever since for the Assessment. 3/9/07 and still nothing!

Hauptman, that is about when I got mine. I completed it within a few days and got a call on 2/2. The problem I had was that the link would not work. It wasn't till I forwarded it to another email address that the link worked properly. I feel for you hanging for so long. I think its needless to ask, but have you checked your spam filters?

Good luck to all who are "active", awaiting interviews, assesments, and decisions. I'm one of the legions who didn't have the luck to ever hit the upsjobs website on the right day/time. My 2006 app is not doing me any good and I can't get one in for 2007. I have several UPS buds on the inside pulling for me, but they can't help me get my app in or get selected for an interview. They did confirm what has been posted here and on the hotline that they are not taking any more apps. One recenly was in L'ville and heard that because the 72's will be going away quicker than new planes are coming in, there is probably going to be a 'pause' in hiring for a while. Have you heard that, or is it a bad rumor someone is passing around?

I got hosed by the new app system!
 

Don't feel bad. I actually managed to get my 2007 application started. Unfortunately, I had everything except my specific type rating flight time breakdowns with me at the exact time when I happened to log into the jobs site and saw the Flight Officer position posted. There I sat without my logbook in hand and thought... "If I don't at least get it started so I can log back in and complete it later, I'll never see it posted again."

So, I filled out everything I could with the exception of adding all but one of my type ratings and the specific PIC/SIC experience I had in those types. The application has a bunch of general fields you complete, but the type ratings section is an individual type by type upload. You can upload as many as you can or none... SO... when I finished everything else, it ASSUMED I was done and accepted it as being complete. So without the ability to update, I am being falsely evaluated by their system without any hope of correcting the application. I emailed them to inquire about making the correction to the app, but got an expected "too bad" answer.

You'd think there would be a nice disclosure stating that you'll only have ONE SHOT at filling out this application and that it is not like any previous app.

But I guess that critical piece of information that may have a significant impact on a persons career is something you just can't expect. I certainly hope the Director of Safety at UPS isn't the same person that holds the Director of on-line Applications position.

I'm right there with you bud. Who knew we couldn't log back in to update with the right contact info etc... Dad always told me a good education is always expensive. Sucks to be us...

Hi Guys:
My 2007 app shows on file (hoping it to go active sometime). I would like to know from the guys that it went active, if all of you guys have a bachelors degree? I have lots of PIC international time but i don't have a degree. Some heavy jet time too. Thanks for any posts answering my question. Good luck to u all.

My app is "active" and I've done the assessments. Yes, I have a degree and think it helps.

I hate to tell you this, but I think if you don't have a 4 year degree, you are SOL. I would keep trying for it though cuz you never know. Good luck!

Anyone get hired without a degree lately?

Yes, thanks for that, I have but don't see anything there. I also sent & forwarded it to the wife's email and nothing there either. Don't know, just don't want to be left by the wayside.

I have a Jan 07 app "on file" and it has never changed to "active". I check nearly every day. As a side note, when I filled out the app, it also never gave me the option to upload a resume. I hope that isn't a deal breaker for me.

p.s. could someone please list the return email address from emails they receive from UPS? I'd like to add it to my address book so it can't get spam blocked. (or pm me if you don't want to post it..please)

My app shows active and has ever since I finished it. I have also taken the assessment but no call yet. Took it last Thursday.

which program do ya'll use to upload your resume? i used the the note pad just to get it in......hope that choice isn't hurting me......
iball

PDF works
 

You may have good results using PDF to upload your resume. Portable Document Format, aka PDF, is made for these types of situations. You have no idea what word processor or viewer they might use. However, PDF is supposed to be a "standard" that they will be able to open. The application program does accept files in PDF. Just try to open your resume PDF file before posting to make sure a PDF viewer has no trouble reading it.

Good luck!

I submitted a .DOC format... it uploaded with out a problem.
Good Luck

For those on Macs
 

For the minority that use Macs that might like to know...
I used a .doc file for my resume on the application, then when I was emailed a request for my resume to me emailed back, I used a .rtf as well as a .doc version in case the format got zany in the translation. When I got the phone call there was no comment about it, but there were the std questions about the qualifications. I may ask at the interview if they had any problems with the one I sent. YMMV.

Beaker,
How long was it from the time you emailed your resume until the phone call?

The foggy memory
 

HercAC

My memory isn't serving me too well, but I think I'm close on my guesses...

Psych test 1 March, phone call 7 March.

Good luck

thanks for all the input folks! all i readily have at my disposal is microsoft windows xp stuff. i did my orginal resume in rich text, and uploaded it as a document.text( i used the "save as" feature). dont have the ability to save in PDF format, or do i? i was under the impression that i have to purchase adobe in order to write documents?
thanks again,
iball

edit: answered my own question. googled and found this place that converts for free.

http://www.pdfonline.com/

ditto for me.

Mac .doc is the same as PC.. I've never had a problem with compatibility of MS office aps, or .pdfs with PC guys.