Originally Posted by hackerbyday (Post 2566123)

NAC will be a long time coming before they are able to take over all the SAS flying and if/when that happens they don’t get our airplanes.

As for the statement that we are a shrinking airline, we have only lost 2 airplanes that we were flying both owned by DHL and were transferred to the sandbox under DHL operations.

Originally Posted by motorclutch (Post 2566117)

I doubt it. They apparently didn’t have the booth manned.

Originally Posted by hackerbyday (Post 2566123)

NAC will be a long time coming before they are able to take over all the SAS flying and if/when that happens they don’t get our airplanes.

As for the statement that we are a shrinking airline, we have only lost 2 airplanes that we were flying both owned by DHL and were transferred to the sandbox under DHL operations.

Originally Posted by tiredofjrm (Post 2566375)

I didn't mean that NAC would get the airplanes, only that we would lose 2-3 airplanes worth of work. Its not like anyone at ABX is out there looking for new work for us. We do not have a sales department. ATI has been getting all the new work coming in the door.

WHEN we lose the NAC work (this summer), Hete will be more than happy for find someone to take over the leases on those airplanes. There will be downgrades due to this. There aren't enough retirees in pipeline to compensate for the loss of that amount of work.

Plus, IF we don't renew all of the DHL contracts this fall, there will be furloughs as well.

This is not the place anyone should come to. There is no future here.

Originally Posted by woog315 (Post 2566139)

We were supposed to have 10 Amazon planes, brother. There has not been a captain upgrade in over a year. I'm not sure what you are trying to defend or why, but ABX is not doing well in a rapidly expanding industry and we just got kicked in the sack by our 'sister' airline.

Originally Posted by hackerbyday (Post 2566507)

I’m not trying to defend anything, just hear continuously that ABX is a shrinking airline and I don’t agree with that. What we were supposed to get and what we do receive is always a toss up and the strike upset that cart. I still have hopes that we will again continue to grow. If I felt otherwise I sure as hell wouldn’t be here.

Originally Posted by GeelErmo (Post 2567000)

Had been enjoying Friday/Saturday night in Cvg and NO FOs to do R1. They JRMed LCA for that. “We’ properly stuffed” aren’t we?:)

Originally Posted by motorclutch (Post 2566988)

oh something is gonna change! Dust off your resume soapy!

Originally Posted by Boris Badenov (Post 2567107)

Oh look, you used the first part of his screen-name, but then change the second part to "cuck". How impossibly clever. Did they turn off the regional forums or something?

Originally Posted by Boris Badenov (Post 2567107)

Oh look, you used the first part of his screen-name, but then change the second part to "cuck". How impossibly clever. Did they turn off the regional forums or something?

Originally Posted by GeelErmo (Post 2567000)

Had been enjoying Friday/Saturday night in Cvg and NO FOs to do R1. They JRMed LCA for that. “We’ properly stuffed” aren’t we?:)

Originally Posted by Grundt (Post 2568058)

Hmm. I didn’t get a call.

Originally Posted by woog315 (Post 2566139)

We were supposed to have 10 Amazon planes, brother. There has not been a captain upgrade in over a year. I'm not sure what you are trying to defend or why, but ABX is not doing well in a rapidly expanding industry and we just got kicked in the sack by our 'sister' airline.

Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2569558)

My first year at K4 probably grossed more than some of your captains made, why not come over here, make decent money, and get home basing?

Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2569558)

My first year at K4 probably grossed more than some of your captains made, why not come over here, make decent money, and get home basing?

Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2569558)

My first year at K4 probably grossed more than some of your captains made

Originally Posted by tiredofjrm (Post 2571940)

So 2 DHL planes are being parked in the next few months. The email came out today. Then this summer 2 SAS planes will be parked. We will be 20% smaller by the summer.

Please do not waste any of your career years coming here.

P.S Does anyone know of a good gig out there?

Originally Posted by thesandbox (Post 2572140)

So the IAH and EWR are not the normal DHL shift-a-roo? I noticed that they are coming up on our schedule but we just lost MSP to Kallitta and thought it was the usually shifting of the deck chairs every year or two but if not that is sad news. Duey, Huey, and Luey are a piece of work.

Originally Posted by woog315 (Post 2572148)

There isn't any way to spin this as good news, but we are still doing IAH,it's just paired with HRL now. Since HRL was formerly paired with MMMY, I'm assuming that signals MMMY will be the next Mexico route to go to Aerounion. MSY usually had less than 10k lbs of freight both inbound and outbound and didn't really need to be on a 767- my guess is one of the feeder ops will pick it up. Rumor is EWR is going to ACC, which seems odd but maybe they are going to start sending more through JFK- I really have no idea.



All that said, absolutely do not come to ABX right now if you have any other options (including a commuter... I never would have said that 18 months ago). Everything here is toxic.

Originally Posted by johnny150 (Post 2571065)

I hope anyone anyone that comes to ABX really likes reserve, because that is what you will be on for a very long time!

Originally Posted by woog315 (Post 2572148)

There isn't any way to spin this as good news, but we are still doing IAH,it's just paired with HRL now. Since HRL was formerly paired with MMMY, I'm assuming that signals MMMY will be the next Mexico route to go to Aerounion. MSY usually had less than 10k lbs of freight both inbound and outbound and didn't really need to be on a 767- my guess is one of the feeder ops will pick it up. Rumor is EWR is going to ACC, which seems odd but maybe they are going to start sending more through JFK- I really have no idea.

All that said, absolutely do not come to ABX right now if you have any other options (including a commuter... I never would have said that 18 months ago). Everything here is toxic.

Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 2572266)

On Saturday ABX has been flying Flt 315 CVG-IAH-HRL for quite a while...not a new trip or reroute. I did not see any mention about CVG-HRL-MMY.

Originally Posted by woog315 (Post 2572419)

Cvg-hrl-mmmy has been a long time run.... I am not the guy that sits and studies the routes (I try to pay as little attention to work as possible besides flying the airplane and occasionally wading into the **** show on APC) but I seriously doubt we are doing two different HRL stops.

Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 2572429)

On the Flight webpage it's been on the flight schedule for the last 2 yrs with a 30+ hr HRL layover. Flt 315