Kalitta and KCM
12-06-2016, 09:49 AM
#21
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 53
Originally Posted by WhaleWrangler
Just one of the ways our DO wanted to "Stick it to the pilots". That's his usual MO.
Once the TA passes we should have it back shortly thereafter. I can't understand the fascination of trying a system we have been told we are not a part of and don't attempt to use. All it will do is red flag us when we do get it back. As someone said, working with pilots sometimes is like trying to herd cats!!
Once the TA passes we should have it back shortly thereafter. I can't understand the fascination of trying a system we have been told we are not a part of and don't attempt to use. All it will do is red flag us when we do get it back. As someone said, working with pilots sometimes is like trying to herd cats!!
Did you not read the email about fast tracking the program? Did you know that earlier this year we were in the system, and yet even though the program was available to us we were not notified. The only way I knew about it was someone who used KCM told me about it. So I fail to understand why you would criticize individuals that tried to use KCM given we were told it would be “Fast Tracked”.
You have a supplemental mindset and you cannot appreciate what it means to be a professional airline pilot, very sad.
12-06-2016, 12:41 PM
#23
On Reserve
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 15
centurion pilots stop flying
centurion cargo pilots stopped flying today 12/6/2016,after giving the owner more than a year to pay overtime money since dec 2015 and been behind on guaranteed up to almost 3 months at a time and using skylease as his tool to weaken centurion a teamsters represented company to the point of having only 1 airplane and sky lease 4 747s and 2 md11s.
12-06-2016, 02:02 PM
#24
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: 747-8 FO
Posts: 68
Originally Posted by newb2
It appears as though you do not understand a lot of things.
Did you not read the email about fast tracking the program? Did you know that earlier this year we were in the system, and yet even though the program was available to us we were not notified. The only way I knew about it was someone who used KCM told me about it. So I fail to understand why you would criticize individuals that tried to use KCM given we were told it would be “Fast Tracked”.
You have a supplemental mindset and you cannot appreciate what it means to be a professional airline pilot, very sad.
Did you not read the email about fast tracking the program? Did you know that earlier this year we were in the system, and yet even though the program was available to us we were not notified. The only way I knew about it was someone who used KCM told me about it. So I fail to understand why you would criticize individuals that tried to use KCM given we were told it would be “Fast Tracked”.
You have a supplemental mindset and you cannot appreciate what it means to be a professional airline pilot, very sad.
12-06-2016, 02:12 PM
#25
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Doing Just Fine
Posts: 356
Originally Posted by fr8ghtdawg
whale wrangler knows whats he's talking about. You cannot incorporate sections of a contract prior to it being ratified. It does not matter what the do said. If they did that, they (kalitta air) would be in court. It will happen if/when the the ta passes.
12-06-2016, 02:21 PM
#26
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Doing Just Fine
Posts: 356
Originally Posted by newb2
It appears as though you do not understand a lot of things.
Did you not read the email about fast tracking the program? Did you know that earlier this year we were in the system, and yet even though the program was available to us we were not notified. The only way I knew about it was someone who used KCM told me about it. So I fail to understand why you would criticize individuals that tried to use KCM given we were told it would be “Fast Tracked”.
You have a supplemental mindset and you cannot appreciate what it means to be a professional airline pilot, very sad.
Did you not read the email about fast tracking the program? Did you know that earlier this year we were in the system, and yet even though the program was available to us we were not notified. The only way I knew about it was someone who used KCM told me about it. So I fail to understand why you would criticize individuals that tried to use KCM given we were told it would be “Fast Tracked”.
You have a supplemental mindset and you cannot appreciate what it means to be a professional airline pilot, very sad.
Yes I saw the email about "Fast Track" that's all it said, no time frame, just they will fast track the application which is not done overnight. It will be available hopefully in time for contract ratification (assuming it passes). The system was available, the cards arrived at Bldg 1, but implementation would have been a status quo violation and it was stopped and the cards never handed out. How they found out about crews using it was some one opened their yap in G/S in front of management and it got turned off that day apart from management.
And as for your last comment, I have probably been a professional pilot long before you were an itch in your fathers pants.
12-20-2016, 08:47 PM
#30
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Doing Just Fine
Posts: 356
Originally Posted by FormerKalitta
Jan 1st? The email I received from TJ said the TA has been ratified.
As for the constant KCM questions, it will arrive when it has been paid for (yes the TSA charge the company for it), the company get the KCM cards, we get the KCM cards and the whole shabang is "switched on".
If people spent as much time worrying about KCM as they did on the contract maybe we might have got one [contract] earlier!!!???
