Bulletboy

MF is also on this list.......

http://www.fracpilot.com/Scabs%20by%20Name.PDF

FDXLAG

Mayday

I certainly agree with you and that was the point, should be paid based on what you do, not what everyone else makes.

Jetjok

Girlfriend needs a new pair of shoes was sarcasm and I apologize if it offended you. Because I am a sensitive guy. That is why I support changing age 60 when it can't do me any good.

Yes I know we all had opportunities to go elsewhere and make less. Yes I know that the new guys aren't real members and should be spit on before we buy them dinner (sarcasm). My point, it would cost us very little to treat them like one of us and make their first 2-3 years at Fedex a little more pleasant. A side bonus is there may be less guys trolling the open time screen (back to the thread) looking to knock off a little of the Visa payment. Then the company would have to man the acft more to our liking. Sorry if us postal guys have made life bad for you with our high expectations.

Please note I am not complaining about the numbers. I am simply agreeing with you it would be nice to pay them more and pointing out it is in our power to do so.

LAG

Huck

I'm a "postal hire," and it took me three years to get off the panel, and it will take me ~8 to 9 years to make narrow-body captain at 100% due to the raising of the age limit.

I know things were bad in the past, particularly right after T-Day (guys like Jetjok). But am I really screaming up the totem pole? Remember that most guys are like me - in their late thirties/early forties when they get here, with ~20 years of flying under their belt already.....

130JDrvr

That better? So, how does the MEC make the new guys appreciate the union more? And have the disputed pairing mean more?

Seems like you think the MEC should do better then you'll listen to the emails....


Past....

FDXLAG

Yes it is better and you got your quotes machine working.

Pay them more. Not treat them like the junior members they are. Lets face it the JR guy is going to fly the DP on reserve. And I have never knowingly flown a disputed pairing. I have called in fatigued on what I thought should have been one. And yes it is a fact of life you listen better to an organization that treats you better. My first year was about keeping my nose clean and paying the bills everything else was chatter.

Lag

Daniel Larusso

Thing is everywhere you go someone can and will say the same types of things. This gig is controlled by luck of the draw of when you hit the seniority list and what is going on at that time. Continental has people upgrading to Captain in two years, while AA is somewhere near 20 years. I bet if you go in the cockpits over there, you'll hear an AA B-scaler saying to shut up b/c they built the place, and an original A scaler saying he saved them all. CO people who survived both bankruptcies are probably telling that to people hired after that who will upgrade to Captain in two years and proceed to tell their FO's that they built the place during their current growth/retirement phase. NW probably has the same thing with their pre vs. post merger pilots and their pre vs. post '98 strike pilots. UA probably has the same thing with their pre 1985 strike blue skies guys vs. the B-scalers, vs. the ESOPers, vs the post ESOPers, vs the post 9/11 furloughees, vs whoever goes there in the future. Southwest with those who got stock before the turbo-growth and after. And on and on and on, a union is far better off if doesn't attempt to qualify who should and shouldn't have an opinion. These are the types of things companies exploit to their advantage and we're all out here proving why.

FR8Hauler

Thanks. Hate to give the guy a bad name if it was not his fault!

Fedex999999

It isn't right to publish that list of pilots flying disputed pairing, since you won't always have all the facts and info. Same thing happened last year with someone posting guys they said were flying draft during our contract negociations. the lists weren't correct!! And neither is this one. I know one of the f/o's that is listed and they were assigned that disputed pairing on a VTO line without asking for it! And the company can't do that. It is being greived right now...

So maybe we shouldn't make a list at all, since we won't know all the details, and it isn't right to drag a buddy's name thru the mud.

FDXer

Like everything else, your buddy is guilty until proven innocent. This is FedEx--not the Supreme Court.

Daniel Larusso

Question. I thought disputed pairings could only be flown by non-reserves by request. Can they be assigned on custom lines?