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I have been with this company for over a year now and ill try to be as clear as possible and give everyone my 2 cents. This is not the best company but on the same side its not the worst. I have been through various regionals and life is still better than the regional, especially if your home based. You just cant beat that. Yes there are things to improve on and alot can be better, but on the same side, its aviation, nothing is valid until it physically actually happens. Rumours float in every company. For someone who is young, i think this is a great place to come here , get some heavy jet time on the 737, quick upgrade if you qualify and the door is open to the world. For someone with age not in side, its not bad if you have home base or live in Miami or Phoenix area. I myself am here to get my experience and await for the next big thing. In the end, no airline is perfect, Swift is not perfect and nor it will be perfect, just like any other company. You just have to get what you want to get out of any other place or company and move on to greener pastures.
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All of u are entitled to your opinion. But I'm just sharing my experience thus far which may help out the aviators who want to come here or stay here. FYI, my paycheck is decent enough and my quality of life is decent without even picking up any open time. But I do pick up open time when I can to get some extra money when I want. And yes I did upgrade to captain here within a year after turning it down two times due to personal reasons and not moving to Miami or Phoenix as I wanted to keep home base. Once again not a career place for me but it's still better than some of the regionals out there still. Good luck to you all.
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You asked for career advice in a post back in 2014.
Here’s mine.....pack your stuff and leave before you get a violation or a suspension. Swift must have served it’s purpose. A type and some PIC time. |
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Recently one of the company's Nice Guys, Favorite Guys, crossed the CP when he refused to take an airplane with the Antiskid inop. At that time he went from Company Hero, to Company ZERO, and was FIERD. But yet they continue to talk about how safety is such a big priority. My Highest Cudos for that individual. He was / Still is, a dam good, well qualified, Pilot, Check Airman, Sim Instructor. I am sure that he was employed somewhere else before the day was done. |
During my indoc training the CEO came by and told one truth and one lie.
He said: “ a company like ours is one crash away from bankruptcy and therefore safety is our #1 concern ” |
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Did you're high school English teacher just dip your papers in red ink? American public school education on display. The unintended consequences of the texting generation. :rolleyes: |
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(Mexican) 737 crash out of Havana? My first thought was Swift and please don’t let it be anybody I know. (Miami Air) 737 off the runway in Jacksonville? My first thought was Swift and please don’t let it be anybody I know. We all know anything that happens will be classified as pilot error. It will take somebody that has worked there or for a similar 36th street operation to understand how the whole system is setup to make the PIC the fall guy. These operations are a house of cards. |
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Man you guys just always wishing well onto others, Christ almighty. Hope your careers never go facing a dire situation. Calling everyone here to fail basically. Some of us are working hard to better this place, even when those of you who have had negative experiences bite at our ankles. Yeah a one crash airline is correct, we’re not delta or American who have had hundreds of incidents/accidents a year and can afford to stay afloat with their billions in insurance, lawyers etc. Doing it right the first time is key and that’s a struggle growing fast and trying to maintain a status quo. We have come a long way from what we were years ago. The mom and pop airline mentality unfortunately still exists in the operation and as it grows it’s unsustainable as you get to 200 pilots and 30 plus acft. FOQA is being implemented to help that and we do have gate keepers calling asking about flights. So they are keeping score. I have never as CA, FO or LCA been made to do anything outside of safety or regulation. Nor have I ever felt the repercussions from it. 2 people sign the release not just one. Even if you’re the FO you have a say. Walk away and if as you guys claim someone pushes you ASAP it, report it etc. Your leadership doesn’t always know everything, show them in the book. Call out your CA. How many accidents have happened because the FO sits there and lets the CA dig both of their graves..... |
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Read it again, and again, and again. Lipstick on a swine. |
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Read it again, and again, and again. Lipstick on a swine. |
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I work for a company that has over 4000 flights a day and we don't have hundreds of incidents let alone accidents a year.
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By the grace of God, the fact that Swift hasn't had more "incidents" is a testament to the crews
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https://www.aeroinside.com/incidents/airline/delta American and Delta are both in the top 20 |
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Industry standards are set at Legacy carriers for a reason. |
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'There's are three types of lies: lies, damn lies and statistics'
-Mark Twain- Comparing Legacy to certain ACMI's airlines 'Stats' is pointless..there is no comparison. Legacy airlines have a well established safety culture with robust safety reporting including FOQA, ask any legacy pilot if it's possible to violate safety policy and attempt to hide it..it's virtually impossible and grounds for immediate termination if discovered. Legacy reported incidents give an accurate indication of safety trends, pilots need to decide for themselves if they have confidence their respective airlines have a true safety culture with accurate reporting processes. You also won't find a legacy CP threaten pilots for erring on the side of safety (or inserting themselves into ASAP reporting), then again legacy CP's are highly qualified and don't need to default to threats, bullying tactics and intimidation to hide a lack of knowledge, experience and competence |
You also won't find a legacy CP threaten pilots for erring on the side of safety (or inserting themselves into ASAP reporting), then again legacy CP's are highly qualified and don't need to default to threats, bullying tactics and intimidation to hide a lack of knowledge, experience and competence[/QUOTE]
This area has become a real problem. And really needs to be dealt with |
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Legacy pilots are encouraged to report Safety issues via ASAP and internal reporting mechanisms. The companies are not afraid of reported safety issues, they realize if you take care of the little things the big things will take care of themselves. There is consequently no reluctance on the pilots part to file reports, this is a primary indicator of a true and established Safety culture. This is also why the numbers seem high to someone at an airline that retaliates against employee's for reporting safety issues, the Legacy numbers are accurate while the company that ensures there's hell to pay for someone who files a safety report are not.
If employee's are reluctant and/or hesitant to report safety issues due to potential blow back from they're respective company, that's a primary indication of a faux safety culture, the CP is NOT supposed to be involved in the ASAP program..PERIOD. A call from a CP or anyone else in Flt Ops Management after filing any safety report should be a cause of great concern, and indicates a highly ineffective and dysfunctional Safety Culture. If a pilot is concerned about retaliation from management over internal safety reporting programs (ASAP is administered by the airline), they should consider filing a NASA ASRS Report. This program operates outside of a companies internal safety reporting programs. An airline with a TRUE Safety culture will have this reporting system available to pilots and encourage it's use, an airline afraid of true reporting wont. The notion that Legacy airlines have hundreds of accidents/incidents per year, and only stay afloat because of billions in revenue and high priced lawyers is patently absurd, it's actually opposite of that conclusion. The airlines encourage reporting, have comprehensive reporting mechanisms and pilots feel ZERO reluctance to do so. It's simply a phylsophical difference, face and identify negative trends to resolve them, or suppress them (Including creating fear in pilots to report) to give the appearance 'all's well'. It's also the difference between a company that operates with integrity, and one that doesn't. |
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