"Trigs" is right. You should also know that once you've been released to the line, you will have 2 choices. 1- fly repetitively broke, old airplanes, risking you license or worst, 2- Get fired for refusing to fly said broke old airplanes. If you've got other options, pass on this outfit. Otherwise just get in, get your type, and get out ASAP.
Better yet... just read the 2 threads on this company, then you will be fully informed. Good Luck.

Does anyone have the new hire class schedule through the fall? A buddy on the west coast has a contract that ends in the next couple of months. I pointed him at airline apps already.

As far as we’ve been told 10 a month till further notice. Mid month class dates

iAero jumpseat
 

Hey iAero Pilots, could any of you provide me with some Jumpseat info? Wondering if there is a flight from CVG-MSP on 4/24? The swift jumpseat website doesn't look like it's been updated since 2016 and the email address returns undeliverable.

Thanks!

Swift Air/iAero. What you should know
 

Looks like it doesn’t operate on saturdays. With the new software change the flight board went away. Our JS coordinator is trying to find a new way.

[email protected] is another email you can try. That is to our flight followers who will be able to help too.

SWQ585 is CVG MSP looks like runs Monday through Friday

thanks you for the info!

Thanks. I’ll pass it along.

I have no dog in this fight and I am retired. As a research trick however I would suggest that readers of this board Google and research a name whenever one is given. If you Google Boris Van Lier, your first hits concern financial troubles and Fraud.

https://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/ne...e16656464.html

The second hit is from a name search engine service that claims that Boris Van Lier has a criminal conviction in his record.

The third hit; in 2015 Boris Van Lier and other management of Swift Air are being sued for Fraud and the plaintiffs are seeking punitive damages. "In its lawsuit, Saipan Air is seeking $2,541,370.78 in compensatory damages and $10 million in punitive damages against Conry and Swift Air director of operations Boris Van Lier.

Last month, U.S. District Court for the NMI Chief Judge Ramona V. Manglona ruled that Saipan Air’s fraud claim against Conry and Van Lier shall proceed, but not against Stukes.

The trial, which will commence Feb. 2, will be against Conry and Van Lier relating to the fraud claims.

Conry and Van Lier are currently employed by Arizona-based Swift Air, which emerged from bankruptcy in 2013."

Finally from Glassdoor: https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Em...VW18904238.htm

Everyone hates the CEO and COO. Employees call him Boris Van Liar.

If it "looks like a duck", "waddles like a duck", "quacks like a duck", It's a duck!

Did you guys have some kind of emergency last night on your PIT-MEM flight? Flightaware shows you were halfway and went from FL360 to 1800ft, and did a few holding patterns?, then up to FL280 again. I may be wrong, just curious.

Nothing has come down the grapevine, looks it was a repo flight

I’m fielding lots of questions from potential applicants. One concern I’ve heard is the training pay. It seems well below industry standard considering all the regionals pay min guarantee and most are throwing in a bonus again.

2018 had a $25k bonus too. I’m sure the bonus is still a ways off but any word if training pay is going to go back to normal?

The hiring bonus got absorbed into the across the board payraises. prior to covid, new hires were on full pay day one, but the Co in its infinite wisdom (figured no one was going to be hiring for a while) went back to reduced training pay. Now iAero is behind the proverbial 8-ball, since everyone is hiring again. Sounds like a lot of applicants are deferring classes, not showing up, or getting current with the type and jetting

Good reminder about the rollover into the pay raise. I forgot about that.

Full pay for training is an easy switch to turn back on. Especially with the options people have now. The pre-Covid CJO’s are already onboard. The recruiters are competing for new hires now.

Competition is stiff. Like you said, everyone is hiring again.

As he said the bonus were integrated into the raise and we got another raise in March of this year which I was surprised to get.

Those of us here for a while still don’t have our retention bonuses either. Holiday pay is still suspended for crews and training pay remains $2700/month plus per diem. From day 1 of indoc till finishing OE. Least I would hope if they have training pay that it would end at your type ride and get MMG from there. I know atlas last I checked was $1800 a month plus per diem for training, but don’t remember where it ends.

These were all covid cost measures and I know we’re not at our normal summer capacity without Europe and vacation express, but we’re doing a lot of other flying to supplement.

The shortage is around the corner and remaining competitive will be difficult. Can only hope we get all our programs back in place prior to covid.

Suspended programs:
-MMG from day 1 in lieu of training pay
-relocation hotels to base for 14 days.
-RTP program.
-holiday pay
-401k matching (never started)


On the other side looks like we will be returning to some live events this year for recruiting, so we’re slowly pushing back to normal. Not where we need to be but at least I think we’re on the positive side after enduring a long year.

Guys hired in March 2020 are going through upgrade so I believe it seems to be moving quick that direction at least. Especially since a lot of our new hires are experienced regional pilots who used to be captains at places like xjt tsa and compass.

We’re all riding this crazy wave for now!

You bring up excellent points MexPilot. Potential new hires are asking about the front end. I’m concerned about retention at this point. I have a feeling losing more pilots than what are coming in isn’t going to help the growth plans that are constantly discussed.

You probably would not be surprised by the number of people that are just waiting on a class date to drop their notice. It’s a fast moving pilot’s market.

Two furloughed buddy’s originally looking here already have cjo’s with spirit. They would have been quick upgrades too.

The majors and LCC will absorb our highly qualified pilots unfortunately. We need to become a career destination, while we do have some lifers here I think the ante needs to be raised in order to continue attracting talent. When I mean talent not just any Joe Schmo, but guys with skill that bring great things to the table where they make things better and stay on.

It’s not just the money
 

When you hear pilot’s leaving for other 36th street carriers, especially the really bad ones, that should tell you something. I met a new hire recently and he was already looking. He said it was constant chaos with scheduling, hotel issues, basings and no clear direction or communication by management. I’ve heard the turnover is like 30 plus percent at Swift/Iaero. You can replace FO’s but Captains are much harder.

Things have to change but every time you read these posts you wonder how it just keeps trundling on.

It’s been a year and the biggest turn over has been captains. Home basing displacement was a big deal to a lot of guys over the summer and even with the small increase right now it’s not enough. FOs have been steady because the bigs have barely started to hire again if you want to call it that.

I know we will be losing some guys to some big carriers in the fall already. They will be back on track where they hit a wall when their regionals went under pretty soon. The cycle of the industry will come back to pick them up where they left off.

They need to suck it up and open home basing up wide like it was

I would argue if we want to retain qualified and experienced pilots going back to home basing is one of many good ideas that need implemented.

This management has been trying to get rid of home basing ever since they arrived on property. COVID gave them the excuse, don’t hold your breath on it coming back.

Does anyone know if iAero use their own sim instructors and if so any idea on the terms and conditions etc.TIA.

Our own instructors with panam sims.

What is the training footprint now? I’ve heard it’s changed from what it was in the past.

13 days of indoc in gso

Oral, 2 SITS, 6 sims, type ride/pc, LOFT, “upset training” sim.

35-40 days give or take.

Then OE just depends on check airman availability, which right now has been heavily put on captain upgrades.

Thanks mexipilot. I’ll pass that along. Already directed her to airline apps.

Any idea if the August class is full? Might be a tight turn for application to that class.

Working the pool right now. A lot of deferrals so I’m sure a lot of poolies got a lot of other things cooking too. That’s allowed a lot of people to move into earlier classes.

Any news on 401k matching or Home base or is that news coming on the 1st?

Home basing increased in size on the last vacancy bid but I believe if I remember added 8 more fo and ca spots I believe that makes 34 or 36 homes based pilots now.

Nothing new on matching, still suspended among other programs.

Rumors only. I thought I had a couple of contacts lined up to apply but with everyone hiring right now they have decided to apply elsewhere.

Training pay, basing, duty rig and 401k were just a few of the reasons they decided to pass.

Wish we had a duty rig! Definitely necessary for some of the trips we do in some bases.

Don't forget trip rig, and dead head pay!

Deadhead pay should definitely be addressed. I’m deadheading as much as I’m flying these days for no extra pay. It’s hard to break min guarantee with the way they build the trips unless you are willing to work on your days off.

Preach!!

filler,,,,

New guy here. Lots of good reading. Any tips for success?

Yes…Spirit is hiring.



No…that’s not even a joke.

Just get your flows and call outs down. Study for the oral. Work with your sim partner every day, hopefully y’all click well and makes the training process better. Make sure to also take time to decompress

I’ll see what I can get my hands on ahead of time. Not much yet.

Try to get your hands on a Spirit or Jetblue app......

Base Seniority
 

Could I get a rundown of the bases in-order of seniority please? I’m specifically looking at getting to CVG but I would be interested in
other bases as well.