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vapor 03-04-2011 08:27 AM

Miami Air
 
Any new updates on Miami Air, hiring, expansion or any other relevent info. Thanks..

Piedmonster 03-04-2011 01:10 PM

Ya, please, I've been waiting for any info/updates!

ERJdude 03-04-2011 02:17 PM

They have had 2 ground schools lately with new hires, traditionally small classes with about 4-6 per class. Work seems steady with no prediction on growing or shrinking. We recently lost a -700 that was scheduled to leave and go back to its original owner out in Oakland. That hasn't affected our staffing too much so there might be additional hiring here sometime in the future. You just never know in the charter business how busy or slow things will get, but as of now things seem steady as ever so hopefully that means good things here.

hoover 03-04-2011 06:59 PM

do they still require the training bond? If you are already typed? Are they in CASS

ERJdude 03-04-2011 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 958262)
do they still require the training bond? If you are already typed? Are they in CASS

yes to all of the above

it is a 3 year pro rated bond

the Miami Air APC page is correct with its info, we enter negotiations this summer so who knows what may come...

vapor 03-06-2011 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by ERJdude (Post 958124)
They have had 2 ground schools lately with new hires, traditionally small classes with about 4-6 per class. Work seems steady with no prediction on growing or shrinking. We recently lost a -700 that was scheduled to leave and go back to its original owner out in Oakland. That hasn't affected our staffing too much so there might be additional hiring here sometime in the future. You just never know in the charter business how busy or slow things will get, but as of now things seem steady as ever so hopefully that means good things here.

Thanks for the response ,
What have the competitive flight time mins been lately ? I have 4600tt and 2600 multi pic turbine ..

ERJdude 03-16-2011 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by vapor (Post 958859)
Thanks for the response ,
What have the competitive flight time mins been lately ? I have 4600tt and 2600 multi pic turbine ..

that would be very competitive, living in south Florida is a huge plus as well and gives you a fantastic QOL here.

PCLCREW 03-17-2011 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by ERJdude (Post 965625)
that would be very competitive, living in south Florida is a huge plus as well and gives you a fantastic QOL here.

What about 5000tt 3500jet with no PIC living in South Florida... any chance or a waste of an email?

captjns 03-17-2011 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by PCLCREW (Post 966139)
What about 5000tt 3500jet with no PIC living in South Florida... any chance or a waste of an email?


The staffing and fleet numbers are very stagnant resulting in long times in the right seat.


While the pay sucks for the first few years, you may be better off at a regional. Compare pay and upgrade schedules at regionals vs Miami Air.

And see how both fit in with your career and quality of life goals.

ERJdude 03-17-2011 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by PCLCREW (Post 966139)
What about 5000tt 3500jet with no PIC living in South Florida... any chance or a waste of an email?

there are plenty of FO's that got hired without any turbine PIC time... and you would be competitive for a job at Miami Air, but it is possible to spend about 5 years in the right seat here. I had 121 PIC time when I came here and i recommend it to everyone who applies as well. There are alot of senior guys who have 65 creeping up on them (about 15) which when you only have about 90 pilots is a decent amount of movement, but there is also no growth at the moment.

take everything in this industry with a grain of salt, things change by the minute in aviation. It is a great adventure if you decide to pursue it.

2bennySODC6 04-21-2011 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by ERJdude (Post 966293)
there are plenty of FO's that got hired without any turbine PIC time... and you would be competitive for a job at Miami Air, but it is possible to spend about 5 years in the right seat here. I had 121 PIC time when I came here and i recommend it to everyone who applies as well. There are alot of senior guys who have 65 creeping up on them (about 15) which when you only have about 90 pilots is a decent amount of movement, but there is also no growth at the moment.

take everything in this industry with a grain of salt, things change by the minute in aviation. It is a great adventure if you decide to pursue it.

It would be nice to get out of Alaska and be based down south. I have almost 3 years at a 121 outfit and a few hundred multi turbine PIC hrs. Do you think another ground school will be put together in the next month or so?

B757200ER 04-24-2011 07:11 AM

What's wrong with Alaska? Don't you like Copper River Smoked Salmon?

seoceancrosser 04-24-2011 01:29 PM

Smoked salmon is nice, but babes in bikini's are nicer!!!

ERJdude 04-24-2011 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by 2bennySODC6 (Post 983945)
It would be nice to get out of Alaska and be based down south. I have almost 3 years at a 121 outfit and a few hundred multi turbine PIC hrs. Do you think another ground school will be put together in the next month or so?

Probably not during the summer months, things tend to slow down during those months. I am sure there will be a ground school in the fall. Always keep trying to submit a resume, you just never know when there might be a ground school here.

2bennySODC6 05-04-2011 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by ERJdude (Post 985113)
Probably not during the summer months, things tend to slow down during those months. I am sure there will be a ground school in the fall. Always keep trying to submit a resume, you just never know when there might be a ground school here.

Thanks for the info.

2bennySODC6 05-04-2011 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by seoceancrosser (Post 984958)
Smoked salmon is nice, but babes in bikini's are nicer!!!

Miami= Warm weather, blue sky, oiled down *****s and plenty of Cohiba cigars to last a lifetime.

Alaska= Cold, dark in winter, toothless women who strut around like Playboy models:eek:, crazy drunk people running around with firearms, and crappy flying conditions (sometimes).

I think I'd seriously consider relocating to Miami if given the opportunity.

Mike400 05-31-2011 04:13 PM

what equip. do they fly?

HercDriver130 05-31-2011 05:33 PM

737's..........

captjns 06-04-2011 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by 2bennySODC6 (Post 989222)
Miami= Warm weather, blue sky, oiled down *****s and plenty of Cohiba cigars to last a lifetime.

The bad news is that you won't be able to afford those Cohibas or oiled down *****s on what Miami Air pays you:(.



Alaska= Cold, dark in winter, toothless women who strut around like Playboy models:eek:, crazy drunk people running around with firearms, and crappy flying conditions (sometimes).

I think I'd seriously consider relocating to Miami if given the opportunity.
But the good new is that you'll will be able to afford the booze and toothless babes on what you can earn in Alaska. You know the old saying... go ugly early or drink'em pretty:D

Toddler 10-23-2011 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by 2bennySODC6 (Post 989222)

Alaska= Cold, dark in winter, toothless women who strut around like Playboy models:eek:, crazy drunk people running around with firearms, and crappy flying conditions (sometimes).


You must be hanging out in Nikiski!! :eek:

captjns 11-15-2011 04:56 AM

Heard through the grape vine that KK aka Kermit the Frog is on longer the DO, and lucky to have job still. I guess the one who used to throw a bunch of guys under the bus just got thrown under a buss too.

Oh well what goes around comes around.

LowSlowT2 11-30-2011 06:46 PM

So it's a 3yr training contract for Miami Air. What if you leave before then - what's the "buy out"?

jetfuelonly 10-11-2012 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by LowSlowT2 (Post 1094260)
So it's a 3yr training contract for Miami Air. What if you leave before then - what's the "buy out"?

The APC page for Miami Air says it's pro-rated. Airline Pilot Central - Miami Air | Charter

TurboDVR42 10-11-2012 10:20 AM

are they hiring? the site says app is open, however not sure if they are looking to interview. A friend of mine had his class cancelled in APR

ERJdude 10-11-2012 12:32 PM

Interviews will take place in December and January for ground schools in the first 3 months of 2013.

Tonne 10-13-2012 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by ERJdude (Post 1275442)
Interviews will take place in December and January for ground schools in the first 3 months of 2013.

Are upgrades still 5-6 years away?

ERJdude 10-13-2012 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Tonne (Post 1276312)
Are upgrades still 5-6 years away?

at least that...

Kikuchiyo 11-05-2012 12:12 PM

I just got called to set up an interview, so they are moving forward on hiring.

One question, how commutable is the schedule? I would plan to reside in Miami, but we just bought a house and the wife has a job in CHS. I wouldn't be running to CHS every break, but I'd like to be able to go back regularly.

workingforfree 11-05-2012 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by Kikuchiyo (Post 1288004)
I just got called to set up an interview, so they are moving forward on hiring.

One question, how commutable is the schedule? I would plan to reside in Miami, but we just bought a house and the wife has a job in CHS. I wouldn't be running to CHS every break, but I'd like to be able to go back regularly.

Been told commuting is very rough. Also, do not even hint in the interview that you are considering it.

captain152 11-22-2012 06:29 AM

Any current pilot at Miami Air mind PMing me? Have a few questions.

Thanks in advance :)

captjns 11-27-2012 02:59 AM


Originally Posted by workingforfree (Post 1288064)
Been told commuting is very rough. Also, do not even hint in the interview that you are considering it.

Commuting is a NO NO with the carrier.

alphonso1 11-27-2012 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 1299654)
Commuting is a NO NO with the carrier.

I understand this point of contention with Miami Air....and I don't have a problem with that....BUT....they should not just look at your HOME ADDRESS and because it is NOT in the State of Florida...SPECIFICALLY within 1-1/2 Hrs of MIA Airport.....and BLOW YOU OFF...Not even offer you an Interview.....

People can Re-locate or ACCQUIRE A Crash Pad Apartment to be available on all duty days.....

I have the experience...exceed the mins....have 2 PIC Type Ratings ( one a widebody).....have applied twice with them...including this current window.....and like everyone else.....I really NEED The Job and would be willing to relocate to FLL.....

I even sent a SEPERATE E-MAIL to D Durocher indicating that I would gladly re-locate for the opportunity......No Response whatsoever..

I still get ignored....Don't know what else to do....Interviews are in Dec 2012 and Jan. 2013..

:confused:

Starlifter 11-28-2012 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by alphonso1 (Post 1299952)
I understand this point of contention with Miami Air....and I don't have a problem with that....BUT....they should not just look at your HOME ADDRESS and because it is NOT in the State of Florida...SPECIFICALLY within 1-1/2 Hrs of MIA Airport.....and BLOW YOU OFF...Not even offer you an Interview.....

People can Re-locate or ACCQUIRE A Crash Pad Apartment to be available on all duty days.....

I have the experience...exceed the mins....have 2 PIC Type Ratings ( one a widebody).....have applied twice with them...including this current window.....and like everyone else.....I really NEED The Job and would be willing to relocate to FLL.....

I even sent a SEPERATE E-MAIL to D Durocher indicating that I would gladly re-locate for the opportunity......No Response whatsoever..

I still get ignored....Don't know what else to do....Interviews are in Dec 2012 and Jan. 2013..

:confused:

Well if this is true about having a FL address, I'm out of the running too. More than willing to re-locate. Will see what shakes out. Also, I exceed the mins, 73 typed and current.

Red Forman 11-28-2012 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by Starlifter (Post 1300479)
Well if this is true about having a FL address, I'm out of the running too. More than willing to re-locate. Will see what shakes out. Also, I exceed the mins, 73 typed and current.

I doubt that's the problem. I have a friend who flies for them and was living in Michigan when he applied and got hired. He now lives in Miami but obviously no where close when he applied.

TurboDVR42 11-28-2012 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by alphonso1 (Post 1299952)
I understand this point of contention with Miami Air....and I don't have a problem with that....BUT....they should not just look at your HOME ADDRESS and because it is NOT in the State of Florida...SPECIFICALLY within 1-1/2 Hrs of MIA Airport.....and BLOW YOU OFF...Not even offer you an Interview.....

People can Re-locate or ACCQUIRE A Crash Pad Apartment to be available on all duty days.....

I have the experience...exceed the mins....have 2 PIC Type Ratings ( one a widebody).....have applied twice with them...including this current window.....and like everyone else.....I really NEED The Job and would be willing to relocate to FLL.....

I even sent a SEPERATE E-MAIL to D Durocher indicating that I would gladly re-locate for the opportunity......No Response whatsoever..

I still get ignored....Don't know what else to do....Interviews are in Dec 2012 and Jan. 2013..

:confused:

I feel your pain man. I have FL (MIA) adress with a 737 type and exceed the mins as well. Still no word. Applied there every window.

Starlifter 11-28-2012 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by Starlifter (Post 1300479)
Well if this is true about having a FL address, I'm out of the running too. More than willing to re-locate. Will see what shakes out. Also, I exceed the mins, 73 typed and current.

Got a call last night so it appears the address was not a problem. Naturally I'm on USAF Reserve duty now for the next 30 days...

redbaronahp 01-22-2013 08:24 PM

I applied 4 times with zero response. I was flying and living in Memphis at the time. My cousin lives in Miami so I asked her if I could use her address on my résumé. With her permission I emailed the Chief Pilot, John Passwater, at 2am and he called me about an interview at 9am the same day. They REALLY do prefer local pilots. One guy in my new hire class nearly a year ago lived in Arizona and was hired. 2 were Florida residents. In my class of 4 pilots, 2 had ATP's with 737 type ratings, jet time, but no experience in type, one only had a Commercial license with an SIC type in the 737 and also in the Embraer 170 along with FO experience in the 737. And then there was me who was the odd man out. I had +1000 PIC turboprop in the ATR 72 with zero jet time or types, but I had an internal recommendation from a company instructor.

From what I know there is currently a class of 4 going on with plans for February and March classes of 4 each. I believe interviews for Feb. have been completed and I am unsure of the interviews for the March class.

Good luck!

Kikuchiyo 01-23-2013 01:54 AM

Jan class is in progress. There was a second round of interviews in early Jan. They used both interview groups to fill the Feb & Mar classes.

BlueHenFR8Dawg 01-23-2013 07:18 AM

I missed the boat on this one... urrgghh.

TurboDVR42 01-23-2013 07:33 AM

Blue,
Dont feel bad, there is suppose to be more hiring in 2013. They just dont know what dates


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