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Old 03-09-2014, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat View Post
Its not the pilot pay that's out of whack. But, I guess that's all we think about. Have you ever compared World's F/A rates vs. NAAs? I didn't think so.
I have. I know. My apologies for thinking you were just talking about the pilots, since 50% of World's current fleet is cargo. Please allow me to correct myself: The World pilots and flight attendants could BOTH work for free and World still couldn't pull through with the amount of debt they still have and the pathetic business plan the parasites continue to preach as legitimate meanwhile setting it up to get a few more million out of it at the expensive of the employees.
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:25 AM
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The pilot pay rate has nothing to do with the World's inability to get out of the stick shaker. World pilots could work for free and it still won't survive in the current situation because of the amount of debt World has been saddled with. Not to mention the fact that none of the executives had or have an interest in making it a viable company again and prefer to whipsaw (nor has there been a competent sales force to speak of). These executives are just parasites sucking as much out of the host before it dies. If something doesn't change soon (and drastically), it will die.
Unfortunately, these are very much the same feelings we had at Ryan as we watch the inept owners drive it in to the ground. They paid out hundreds of thousands in bonuses to themselves and upper management, and clearly siphoned out $13 mil in the year leading up to bankruptcy. And then, just last week the trustee filed a motion in the ch13 court that he had uncovered nearly $100 mil in hidden withdrawals and payouts in the year prior. Of course we all wish they would face criminal charges, but I'm sure they won't. The game is rigged for big business, the sooner we all figure that out the better off we would be.

I hope World fares better than Ryan did, but like I said, it sounds like a very similar pattern is emerging. We finally had to stop giving concessions when they knocked on our door every 2 weeks, otherwise you are just giving them more money to have on the other side of the shut down, I urge World pilots to do the same.

Things are better job wise, so there is life after World, I had a Wolrd guy in my class at Spirit. It's never fun starting over, for me it was after 17 years, but it gets better. And there is some relief working for a company that is financially solid. I wish you all the best however it plays out.
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Old 03-11-2014, 05:12 AM
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Been there, done that. I wish the line employees all the best, but as a former ATA CA, I hope the management, Mat-pat gets screwed! However, as said above, there is life after. Good luck.
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I am also a former ATA Captain, if Maitlin-Paterson shows up on the property start looking for a new job. They will rape and pillage your airline and move on to the next victim. They have no soul and they will be held accountable one day for their actions. I hope that I am there to see their faces.
Oh yeah,Southwest can die in a ball of fire for all I care.
Yeah I am bitter.
Oh crap I almost forgot-Barrack Husein Obama- WORST PRESIDENT EVER, History will show. And we all will pay the price including our grand children.

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Old 03-11-2014, 08:33 PM
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MP has been long gone from Global. We have moved on to a new set of scumbags.
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Old 03-20-2014, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BayBum4Ever View Post
I am also a former ATA Captain, Oh yeah,Southwest can die in a ball of fire for all I care.
Yeah I am bitter.
Bahahahahaha! I know how you feel. COMPLETLEY know how you feel actually (Former AirTran Cptn). I flew with a lot of ex-ATA guys. As bitter as I am, I really feel for those guys having felt the LUV twice over.
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Old 03-20-2014, 11:10 AM
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Auction postponed until late April now.
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Old 03-22-2014, 03:53 AM
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Auction postponed until late April now.
Auction? What auction?
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Old 03-22-2014, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville View Post
Auction? What auction?
heard -- auctioning off all of world's ground equipment -
what there is - since planes are leased next will be their return
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Old 03-22-2014, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dc10pilot View Post
heard -- auctioning off all of world's ground equipment -
what there is - since planes are leased next will be their return
It's not that kind of auction. Yet
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