Kalitta Air Charters
 

I have a possible interview with Kalitta Air Charters for a Captain positiion for the Lear 35 and was wondering if anyone has some information of what to expect.

Low pay and a short call out... but not uniform for cargo I think

How did it go?

Aprently hiring has stoped untill the winter

The call out can be very short (15 min for cargo), but the pay could be worse. For ambulance and passenger the call out is one hour.

As a first year dual qualified FO, I made about 38k before per diem. I'm not saying that's great, but it's better than I expected.

You are correct on the uniform situation. For pure ad hoc cargo you are not required to be in uniform.

Is the quick take accurate on kalitta 2 (dc9, 727) as far as pay rates 85k capt 51 Fo and no crash pad required, 12 days off in 28? Do they airline you home if you are stuck out on the road on days off?

Not sure who gave the 57 hour per month guarantee. It is actually 50 hours per month. 3 to 5 percent raises every year. Over-time is 2.5 hours or block, whichever is greater. The company has condos or apartments or hotel rooms for you, so the no crashpad required is accurate. They definitely will airline you back to Detroit, or to your home (if the ticket is cheaper), for your days off. 16 days on, 12 off is correct. Are we hiring?

Thanks. I was just trying to get an apples to apples comparison. I work across the field and fly the same planes with the same cargo and make less and also have to pay for my crashpad. I kinda always figured pay/qol were close the same for all the nonscheds but maybe I was wrong

Charters 2 is a good places....charters one sucks

http://www.aerocrewsolutions.com/pilot-job-fair/

Looks like some hiring...

Are they still looking for 2500 Min jet time?

Thanks

Charters II
 

This applies to Kalitta Charters II. 45,000 is base salary plus load pay which is 200 dollars per load/unload. I average 3 to 5 load pays a month. Schedule for DC9 crews is 9 days on 9 days off. Overtime pay is 2.5 hours or actual flight time and is paid above guarantee. DC9 crews do not get to use the condos and are responsible for their own crash pad. Our DC9's are very well taken care of and Doug Kalitta is a really good guy to work for. He takes care of his people. As an example, when our DC9 went in for a "C Check" which lasted 3 months, Doug kept everyone on full pay while we sat home. Unfortunately, we just hired two new FO's for the new aircraft that came online and there is very little movement on the 9.

Thanks for the info...any clue when hiring may start to pick back up?? I live just south of YIP, sounds like a descent gig if you live close. Thanks.

Any current info on Kalitta 2 727 operations would be great! Current QOL and hiring plans. Also do they hire you as an FE or as an FO on 727? Do you need internal rec or is a good résumé with lots of pic time and several type ratings (no 727 type) enough?

727 no mins... Hired as a fe... Prefer heavy time ... Prefer 3000 plus total 1000 jet..... Basically it's a personality job if the do likes you or not.....qol is ok, home based, hiring in the fall.

Any chances of moving up from the f.e. seat? Or are you expected to be a P.F.E?

Probably have to spend 6 months to a year in the back seat, if hired as a Flight Engineer. If you have your 1500 hours and ATP, you get a sim evaluation ride, and up-grade. Some hiring is done right into the right seat. Last group of Flight Engineers appears to be PFE's, who do not have the interest in up-grading. Not home based unless you live in Detroit and consider that your home.

I'm currently a f.e. in the military, with comm sel/mel inst. just building time, trying to get my foot in the door....... I sure wouldn't mind engineering more if I could move up!!

Hi, what is average actual flight hours if you are in 727 or DC9?
What is upgrade time there?
So there are no flow through or preferential hoarding to 747s?
Any info will be appreciated.
Thank you

What is load pay or load/unload pay??? Is it that they have the flight crew load and unload the airplane with cargo, as in, lifting and moving and tying cargo down???

what is upgrade time from fo to capt on either the 9 or the 72??

Does the airline furlough much if so how long do the furloughs usally last??

Can one expect a furlough after the christmass rush if you are a new guy?

And lastly, if furloughed would you be offered a job flying one of the lears on the charters one side??

Also how much overtime can you get amonth?? I know it depends on seniority but is there OT to be had by new guys??

Apologies for my ignorance.

What is load pay or load/unload pay??? Is it that they have the flight crew load and unload the airplane with cargo, as in, lifting and moving and tying cargo down???
You bet!

Does the airline furlough much if so how long do the furloughs usally last??
Not lately on the 727, not sure on the lear
Can one expect a furlough after the christmass rush if you are a new guy?
As above
And lastly, if furloughed would you be offered a job flying one of the lears on the charters one side??
Nope!
Also how much overtime can you get amonth?? I know it depends on seniority but is there OT to be had by new guys??
none.... they buy days off but you will never break garuntee
Apologies for my ignorance.

You got it nailed. I worked for Charters for almost 10 years. There is no flow through, either way between the companies.

You still at the Jet Natca?

Yup, still keepin the lights on. Glad you like da bus!

Any new info on Kalitta Charters 2 hiring? 727 or DC 9, still same number of planes? Planned hiring soon? Any info would be greàt thanks.

They just had an ad on climb350

I applied last week, 1830ish TT, half of that 121 time. How long does it take to hear from them? I'd really like to at least interview there.

Sounds great
 

I am interested in keeping this thread alive as it appears they will be hiring soon. So, may I ask some questions and if the Kalitta guys can't answer, I understand.

1) Any idea next class dates on both 727 and DC9? They were advertising for both.
2) Where is training held? For both ground school and sim?
3) Uniforms for 121 guys? Can it be safe to assume no hats? Jumpseating!
4) What are the bennies like ie; med, den, vision, 401K? Direct deposit?
5) Cass on ALL carriers or are some not taking you ie; recip agreements? Whos the best?
6) How does scheduling work? Do you bid for trips/requests or days off?
7) Ticket home or YIP or you can just jumpseat home?
8) Do the DC9 guys get the same deal as the 727 as it says yes and no on the internet? Hotels at YIP etc...
9) Hotels on the road, good/bad?
10) Any more aircraft or different fleet coming?
11) How long currently to Captain? Are guys leaving/retiring?

Sorry for the long list but trying to get as educated as I can. It almost sounds like the 121 side is really a good gig. Almost to good to be true.

Thanks. You can pm as well I promise not to divulge any information.

Applied got a response
 

I received the EEO form about a week after applying. Which usually means nothing but an automatic response. Anyone actually hear anything?

Nope, I doubt I will given my total time, but fingers crossed

DC9 Plans
 

What are the Kalitta plans for the DC9--how many, type of service?

Phase 1 of the interview process is an 80 question ATP type test. 80% to pass and be able to get to phase 2. The test is sent as an attachment to an email and you have 24 hours to complete. I would recommend having a FAR/AIM handy.

What is a kalitta charter

Kalitta Charters is the "sister" company of Kalitta Air LLC... they fly 727s, DC-9s and also have a 135 op flying Lears and Falcons....

There are actually 3 separate units to Kalitta.

Dover Pilots
 

Can any Kalitta pilots that fly out of Dover give me the scoop? Hours, schedule, condition of aircraft. Wondering if it is worth looking into.

Anyone with any info on pay, QOL, or how the schedule looks like for the FO position they are offering now to fly the 727?

Thanks!

Do they happen to do a commuter schedule? 20/10 or 40/20 or something like that? Or is it like IFL... on call 24/7/365?

Dover contracts are up for bid at the end of this year. You won't get on the Falcon as a new hire anyway. Learjet first.

28 day bid cycle (16 on/12 off)
when you're "on", expect to be on call 24/7 except for your 24 hours off within 7 days.

pay is good, better than any regional out there. $45,000 first year.

hire pilots into right seat only (unless you're a professional flight engineer)

They own ALL of their planes outright, owned by Doug Kalitta, and no affiliation with Kalitta Air (Connies airline)

their 727 operation is 121 and consider themselves an airline, even though most of the flying is ADHOC charter.

They are very very profitable. They fly ADHOC charter, mostly for the automobile manufactures in Detroit. The rate is very high for last second 727 charter. Also fly alot for Boeing and Lear.

1 plane dedicated to horse charters

You're always involved in the loading/unloading process. In cities where there are loaders, you figure weight & balance and tell them where to put cargo. In cities where a truck just pulls up with a load, then you become the loader. Bring a fresh t-shirt. (They pay you $200 in the event you assist in the loading/unloading)

Based in KYIP, company provides hotel or condos (condos are nice)

You commute to work. Yes Kalitta is a CASS airline.

They don't want to pay overtime, so they leave you alone on off days

airplanes in pretty good shape for 727's. Issued your own ipad for electronic flight bag.

Pretty good group of pilots, except for a few Captains that have sold their souls to Management. Hope you don't get paired up with these guys. If you do, look forward to 20+ hour days, and sitting for 10 hours in the plane waiting for cargo to arrive. Some of these Captains have no backbones and won't stand up to managements abuse.

Mgmt is evil for the most part (like any other airline). They try to get away with what they can.

at least a year to upgrade. Upgrades are seniority based for the most part, but if you're labeled a "troublemaker", always calling in sick, or abuse the system, you probably won't upgrade.

It's an "ok" place to hang out for a while if you're between jobs or if you just want to fly the 727. They prefer people who are typed in the 727 or have experience in it.

teamsters about to be on property. Vote results will be available today (9-3). Will update this post later with the results

Kalitta Charters II voted in IBT on Sept 3rd. They are represented by IBT Local 1224