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Braniff DC8 01-11-2017 04:39 PM

I think Apple uses a number of carriers. Both Mijami Air and Extra were in Columbus the other day. Love the rumors though. I do not think Eastern will make it on its own. Orange Air and World Atlantic need partners as well. Aersale has deep pockets. You should see Xtras headquarters. There will be mergers this year but the crew shortages will continue. The regionals are offering pretty decent packages the biggest of wich are some flows and passes.

Triggs 01-11-2017 06:26 PM

Swift has almost tripled in size since I started there just over 2 years ago. Don't think that can be said for Xtra, Miami Air or the others. If I was a betting man, Swift would seem the darling at the dance right now as far as stability is concerned, but that can change on a dime. We are at least 14 to 20 pilots short for the number of airframes right now, and the gap will widen as more planes come on line if they don't do something to attract and retain.

Braniff DC8 01-11-2017 07:44 PM

Thanks Triggs. I think someone said basings were going away and home basing was coming? The pay is better at Swift but commuting would be too hard. I am 737 rated and was called in 2015 but could not come then. Guys like me are out there and would join it's just the incentives aren't there. I would join tomorrow but left seat would need to come quickly, it seems like 2 years right now? and the basing thing would have to be addressed. There are too many either home basing jobs, Everts for instance, or regionals with hotels. This is in no way reflective of Swift Air but current market forces. In other words, why would one join Swift right now.

Thanks again.

Triggs 01-12-2017 04:02 PM

I doubt it would take 2 years, not with the planned growth. Even with the seniority based upgrades now, there are some that don't have the "time" to move seats yet.

VF32TomCat 01-12-2017 05:57 PM

So the rumor of Swift Air buying Eastern is true??? But why Eastern? They are not flag and domestic Yet. So why buying Eastern only because of the airplanes or name maybe?

Iron Maiden 01-12-2017 06:17 PM

I hope we don't buy Eastern

mexipilot84 01-13-2017 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by VF32TomCat (Post 2280171)
So the rumor of Swift Air buying Eastern is true??? But why Eastern? They are not flag and domestic Yet. So why buying Eastern only because of the airplanes or name maybe?

DO already stomped that out, it's not true. he said buying eastern would be a liability as that place is a mess. I definitely wouldnt want anything to do with that 36th street mafia operation.

Braniff DC8 01-13-2017 03:48 AM

So how would someone with a 737 rating apply again? Carlton is gone so there goes that connection. I apply for the jobs on 350.com but have not heard anything. They can't be too desperate. The upgrade and basings thingies will be a deciding factor. AJTs new contract looks sweet too.

I think 2017 will be a good year for those looking. Fingers crossed of course.

Thanks for all the info.

Triggs 01-13-2017 06:01 AM

I wouldn't be surprised to see mergers/acquisitions take place in the supplemental world this year. If Swift is going to acquire anyone, it will be a company with authorizations that they want/need, not a company with outrageous lease payments on brand new -800s that need to fly 16hrs a day to make the nut. That being said, I've been wrong before.

LittleAbner 01-13-2017 09:05 AM

I heard that Atlas was buying up Swift and starting a Lagos, Nigeria shuttle. No home basing for the 73 guys in Lagos though.. LOL


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