Bahamasflyer

Agreed.

Not only was it adequate but the instructors were fantastic. They really want you to succeed

JediCheese

The training program is very hit or miss. Some instructors are amazing and some are flaming dog ****. The average instructor is pretty good. The turnover is so high and the need for instructors so pressing they can't find the golden nuggets to keep in the training department (or entice to keep around) and figure out which need to get shown the door.

I will say everyone is doing their best and want to get you the resources to succeed and get out on the line. There's no instructors sitting around, slacking off, and allowing trainees to fail. It's just that not everyone has the skills and abilities to be a quality instructor and it's not immediately obvious until they start teaching that's the case.

propoverspeed

I wouldn't go to C5 anymore, there's no advantage to their CPP and you've missed the wave unless you want to slave away as a DEC. If you're an FO you won't fly, if you're a DEC you'll be extended every trip, and when you do get a line there will be coverage awards halfway up the list giving you a 92hr min credit line with 12 off.
UA has made it clear on Aviate calls that they would not cripple the staffing at an airline by taking pilots for Aviate, so you're more likely to not be held back by a larger airline who can sort of staff (that isn't trying to grow in the toughest environment recruiters have ever had to work in).

That kind of goes for anyone in Aviate, they said they wouldn't take several CKAs in a row if it would hurt the express operation. So make sure you do absolutely nothing beyond the bare minimum, so you can move on to United as quickly as possible.

flynd94

That’s funny because 7 LCP’s left XJT in one month this last August. They are hurting just as bad for LCP’s.

propoverspeed

Maybe that's where they're getting this sentiment from. Since C5 has around 16 CKAs, and half are slated to leave in the next 6 mo, I'd say there's no reason to step up and put a target on your back to keep you from leaving.

SP238882

Where is this information your stating coming from, is it first hand? Because I’m a DEC and my experience hasn’t even been close to this.

propoverspeed

Because DEC is and always has been a pyramid scheme, you have to continously stuff more and more street captains under your seniority just to maintain QOL. As soon as people start upgrading ahead of you, you're gonna start continuously sliding backward unless you're really sure that these other jets are gonna materialize (even though we can't staff current fleet).
Reply again in another year and let's see how you feel on reserve with another 3 years on the horizon before line holding again. Also don't give us the "I'll be at United by then" because you won't; you're cannon fodder for the RJ first, a groomed coworker second.

climb150

Guy from my class is a street Capt and he already has 40 people below him on the Capt seniority list.

Pyramid scheme it is not. Plenty of 135 people and FO's from other regionals who arent prepared to wait years for upgrade.

SP238882

So... Then NOT first hand? I'm sorry your experience here has been poor. Mine has not. I've held a high QOL line for the vast majority of my time here and it continues to improve. Hopefully yours does as well. I'm not too worried about any backslide as the majority of our seniority list has been here sub 2 years. The power of a small company with constant attrition.

round2

I’m a DEC hired in the summer and have 20+ DEC’s below me and 12 more in training. Life is good at C5 for street CA’s