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Originally Posted by propoverspeed
(Post 2915988)
Because DEC is and always has been a pyramid scheme, you have to continously stuff more and more street captains under your seniority just to maintain QOL. As soon as people start upgrading ahead of you, you're gonna start continuously sliding backward unless you're really sure that these other jets are gonna materialize (even though we can't staff current fleet).
Reply again in another year and let's see how you feel on reserve with another 3 years on the horizon before line holding again. Also don't give us the "I'll be at United by then" because you won't; you're cannon fodder for the RJ first, a groomed coworker second. Attrition at this company is high. Those on the top are constantly moving up and getting better jobs at major airlines. Also, add another 23 planes onto our current fleet and that is not only moving up, but also filling in the bottom. And, we will be short FO's again sometime in the spring. The 2 or 3 that we are hiring in each class is not going to be enough to keep up with the amount of upgrades or those that are getting jobs with the LCC's or majors. Those that are sitting on reserve and not flying right now will be flying their butts off in 6 months which is a constant cycle at this company and proven if you go back and read these threads. And yes, we are still hiring FO's, but only a couple a class. |
Originally Posted by SP238882
(Post 2915131)
Where is this information your stating coming from, is it first hand? Because I’m a DEC and my experience hasn’t even been close to this.
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Originally Posted by jacburn
(Post 2916782)
Odd that you bring up the "Reply again in another year" thing. Just go back over the message boards for the last 2 years and have a look. The answer has been proven that you are wrong.
Attrition at this company is high. Those on the top are constantly moving up and getting better jobs at major airlines. Also, add another 23 planes onto our current fleet and that is not only moving up, but also filling in the bottom. And, we will be short FO's again sometime in the spring. The 2 or 3 that we are hiring in each class is not going to be enough to keep up with the amount of upgrades or those that are getting jobs with the LCC's or majors. Those that are sitting on reserve and not flying right now will be flying their butts off in 6 months which is a constant cycle at this company and proven if you go back and read these threads. And yes, we are still hiring FO's, but only a couple a class. Yet you’re still at C5? I thought you would have left for UA via the CPP by now. |
Originally Posted by flynd94
(Post 2916833)
Yet you’re still at C5? I thought you would have left for UA via the CPP by now.
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Originally Posted by PhantomHawk
(Post 2916870)
You know better than that. JB is all about truth and straight answers.......except that one.
I am very well liked at C5. I am getting my debt paid off that I accumulated while I wasted a decade at XJT as an FO taking care of my disabled child and his medical bills and paying off my medical bills from the drunk driver that tried to kill me (actually did but I came back). I stayed out of having to file bankruptcy due to the sucky XJT 2004 contract even with your sucky $1.50 raise by leaving XJT. I made the mistake of not leaving earlier, because I continued to believe that XJT would turn the ship around even though I knew we were constantly being told a bunch of crap that wasn't true. I still have the pictures if you want me to post them. Now that I am no longer there and am involved at C5, I see the 145's all getting parked in the next couple of years at XJT and it being an all 175 fleet that will have fewer planes flying than they currently have now. The new XJT boss is well known to come in and consolidate or close down airlines. XJT is not going to be closed down since UA is working to the final 4 regionals that will be flying for them. So that leaves him making XJT a one type fleet just like he did at C5 when he was here. UA is going to be a pay cut for me for the next two to three years. I am getting my financial house in order and I am almost ready to make the switch. James, I would say that I will see you soon, but I don't plan on being LAX based. |
Originally Posted by jacburn
(Post 2916936)
The truth has been stated, but you just don't want to believe the truth. You want me to tell you that I got turned down by UA or that I made a mistake when I left XJT. Neither of those statements is true so I wont tell you that James.
I am very well liked at C5. I am getting my debt paid off that I accumulated while I wasted a decade at XJT as an FO taking care of my disabled child and his medical bills and paying off my medical bills from the drunk driver that tried to kill me (actually did but I came back). I stayed out of having to file bankruptcy due to the sucky XJT 2004 contract even with your sucky $1.50 raise by leaving XJT. I made the mistake of not leaving earlier, because I continued to believe that XJT would turn the ship around even though I knew we were constantly being told a bunch of crap that wasn't true. I still have the pictures if you want me to post them. Now that I am no longer there and am involved at C5, I see the 145's all getting parked in the next couple of years at XJT and it being an all 175 fleet that will have fewer planes flying than they currently have now. The new XJT boss is well known to come in and consolidate or close down airlines. XJT is not going to be closed down since UA is working to the final 4 regionals that will be flying for them. So that leaves him making XJT a one type fleet just like he did at C5 when he was here. UA is going to be a pay cut for me for the next two to three years. I am getting my financial house in order and I am almost ready to make the switch. James, I would say that I will see you soon, but I don't plan on being LAX based. In spite of some rough times early in the 145 transition, as a nonXJT guy it seems to me to have been a good thing for most who made the move to C5. The quality of the pilots who came here from XJT speaks well of ExpressJet. C5 has benefited from their presence. Everyone is just trying to make a living and make the best of the cards that life deals them. |
Originally Posted by jacburn
(Post 2916936)
The truth has been stated, but you just don't want to believe the truth. You want me to tell you that I got turned down by UA or that I made a mistake when I left XJT. Neither of those statements is true so I wont tell you that James.
I am very well liked at C5. I am getting my debt paid off that I accumulated while I wasted a decade at XJT as an FO taking care of my disabled child and his medical bills and paying off my medical bills from the drunk driver that tried to kill me (actually did but I came back). I stayed out of having to file bankruptcy due to the sucky XJT 2004 contract even with your sucky $1.50 raise by leaving XJT. I made the mistake of not leaving earlier, because I continued to believe that XJT would turn the ship around even though I knew we were constantly being told a bunch of crap that wasn't true. I still have the pictures if you want me to post them. Now that I am no longer there and am involved at C5, I see the 145's all getting parked in the next couple of years at XJT and it being an all 175 fleet that will have fewer planes flying than they currently have now. The new XJT boss is well known to come in and consolidate or close down airlines. XJT is not going to be closed down since UA is working to the final 4 regionals that will be flying for them. So that leaves him making XJT a one type fleet just like he did at C5 when he was here. UA is going to be a pay cut for me for the next two to three years. I am getting my financial house in order and I am almost ready to make the switch. James, I would say that I will see you soon, but I don't plan on being LAX based. |
Originally Posted by flynd94
(Post 2917481)
You sound like every lifer I ever flew with at XJT. First year pay for me at UA is a wash with my pay at Xjt (LCP over ride). You are giving up a ton of seniority, 16% DC and not being a subcontractor
Jacburn, you were a huge help to me at XJT and a fair opinion on the various topics we discussed. Here’s a tidbit for the people attacking him, when I decided to come back, he didn’t try to push C5 on me. He gave me the fairest assessment possible and helped me choose something that fit my situation a bit more closely. |
Originally Posted by CLE to IAH
(Post 2919911)
So. Did you only read the two sentences you wanted to read from that whole thing?
Jacburn, you were a huge help to me at XJT and a fair opinion on the various topics we discussed. Here’s a tidbit for the people attacking him, when I decided to come back, he didn’t try to push C5 on me. He gave me the fairest assessment possible and helped me choose something that fit my situation a bit more closely. |
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