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JuniorFO 09-21-2020 03:46 PM

C5 has lost IAH base to SkyWest
 
From a reliable source.

jacburn 09-21-2020 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by JuniorFO (Post 3133482)
From a reliable source.

That is so sad to hear. I will let UA and C5 management know tomorrow so they can plan accordingly.

jacburn 09-21-2020 05:28 PM

Someone needs to get his crystal ball fixed and find some better reliable sources.


Originally Posted by JuniorFO (Post 3101638)
XJT has already been chosen as the survivor.

United wouldn't have asked for concessions from XJT to match C5 if they didn't want XJT. Think about it. If it TRULY was all based on costs, United would just shut down XJT and grow C5 when needed.

This is what is happening - United is using C5 as a pawn to get XJT to take concessions. Once this occurs, C5 will shut down (as already planned).



Originally Posted by climb150 (Post 3101694)
C5 was already moving into ORD this year to cover expressjet flying. From what I can see expressjet was going to be shrunk to a one base airline (IAH) before covid. If expressjet did disappear Skywest could easily cover IAH with CRJ 200s they have spare from Delta.

Expressjet was dying before covid came along.


Originally Posted by JuniorFO (Post 3101723)
Completely false. XJT was shifting flying to open DEN and expand pre covid. Also why didn't C5 get XJTs old XRs from TSA then? You have no idea what you are talking about.


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ZR29907 09-21-2020 05:30 PM

ya, that didn't age well at all

Flyhayes 09-21-2020 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by JuniorFO (Post 3133482)
From a reliable source.

All this forced time off and you decided that smoking the crack pipe was the way to go?

herewego 09-22-2020 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by Flyhayes (Post 3133599)
All this forced time off and you decided that smoking the crack pipe was the way to go?

Never believe rumors and reliable sources,
But OO's monthly domicile vacancy report shows an additional 15 CRJ captains will be transferred into IAH due to increased flying. If they're transferring instead of just flowing other domiciles schedule through IAH it indicates a long term thing.
However in todays environment long term could mean 3 weeks.

marshal 09-22-2020 04:18 AM


Originally Posted by herewego (Post 3133684)
Never believe rumors and reliable sources,
But OO's monthly domicile vacancy report shows an additional 15 CRJ captains will be transferred into IAH due to increased flying. If they're transferring instead of just flowing other domiciles schedule through IAH it indicates a long term thing.
However in todays environment long term could mean 3 weeks.

Skywest can add flying without C5 closing their base, which has not even opened yet. The added flying for OO there makes sense because C5 can't do all the flying today that ExpressJet was doing, especially Mexico. There will be lots of flying shifting around over the next few months. Also the number of block hours at UAL will have direct effect on hours available to all of UAX assuming their new TA passes which brings a whole lot of unknowns. These are strange times we live in and normal "rules" don't apply.

brockenspectre 09-22-2020 04:26 AM


Originally Posted by marshal (Post 3133686)
Skywest can add flying without C5 closing their base, which has not even opened yet. The added flying for OO there makes sense because C5 can't do all the flying today that ExpressJet was doing, especially Mexico. There will be lots of flying shifting around over the next few months. Also the number of block hours at UAL will have direct effect on hours available to all of UAX assuming their new TA passes which brings a whole lot of unknowns. These are strange times we live in and normal "rules" don't apply.

United doesn't even know what their own schedules are looking like 3 months out, let alone what regional feed is doing. Marshal is right that flying is going to shift around a TON until there is some sort of concrete stability on the horizon. Until then, expect the unexpected.

point80 09-22-2020 12:26 PM

C5 is still going to IAH. I was just at the Holiday Inn off JFK Blvd and saw their FA classes studying in the lobby. But, SKW is trying to grow in IAH too. Pairings also increased for Mesa. There is plenty of flying to go around to fill the XJT hole.

savedbythevnav 09-24-2020 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by herewego (Post 3133684)
Never believe rumors and reliable sources,
But OO's monthly domicile vacancy report shows an additional 15 CRJ captains will be transferred into IAH due to increased flying. If they're transferring instead of just flowing other domiciles schedule through IAH it indicates a long term thing.
However in todays environment long term could mean 3 weeks.

It is true. 15 CRJ CA vacancies but 0 CRJ FO vacancies. Reason: There are 62 FO's already in IAH, but 47 CA's so this vacancy evens out the disparity.

I think it might be long term staffing as well and here is why: I have seen us go down the rabbit hole of increases and decreases in flying in IAH a few times now. Every single time, OO has decided to crew the temporary increases via other domiciles. This is the first time they have actually committed to a substantial increase. I don't think we are taking all IAH flying as that is not UAL's typical M-O.

Absolutely correct that the usual rules do not apply and as we have seen before it could be completely invalid logic two hours from now.


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