A pilot I know very well has recently departed C5 for UA, and he was in the training department there. He spoke very highly of the training department; full of people who really cared about the success of the class and were willing to put in the work if the students were prepared and had a good attitude. Y'know, a lot like being a CFI.

I only have this as second-hand information, though.

They are not AQP yet, but it's supposedly coming. I have no background in this so I can't shed any light for you on it one way or another.

I'm going into this eyes open; the pay raises for all the regionals lately certainly help, but none of us should fool ourselves - the job is designed to be a stepping stone. There are certain lifers at certain carriers and while I'm sure those guys are happy, they also meet a unique set of circumstances that allow for it to be so. They are the outliers, though.

While I'd love to have IAD, I'm going to try and work where there is as much flying as possible. Hopefully that's IAD.

I wasn’t overly impressed with the training. It may be better now, but it was long and pretty chaotic when I went thru. A lot of filler but no real meat. Instructors seemed lost, or at least happy to read right off slides with little real knowledge.

Sims were even worse. They give you lots of sims, but very little real instruction. I had a guy that had never flown this aircraft and never taught new jet students. Hell, I didn’t even know how to adjust the seat, but he just expected us to get in and know everything. I needed crayons. Again this was over a year ago.

As far as flying goes, IAH is the big one. They seem to be consistently above 7000 hours while IAD and DEN are around 1500-2000. DEN should go up a bit this winter… skiing and such. We’ll see.


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Everyone I’ve dealt with in the training department has been excellent and no one there is out to get ya or anything. Very smart group who does everything they can so you can succeed.

If I am unable to start until Jan 1 due to my current position, would you all recommend I go ahead and submit my app now or hold off?

Any current info on C5 training delays? C5 seeming like a better option than YV for me currently due to being able to hold IAH sooner (hearing 11-12 mo. footprint for YV).

I applied in July and was offered an October class date but they were pretty flexible if I needed to move it back. If they want you, they seem to want to work with you. There's no reason NOT to apply, since you can always say no.

Thanks for the help. How long is the CJO good for? When are they working in your ATP-CTP?

No delays here.

You’ll probably be 3.5-4 months indoc to finishing in the schoolhouse. They overtrained LCAs so you go straight into IOE that usually takes 1-2 weeks max. I had a great experience in ground school and they understand the typical fo is a cfi so if you apply yourself and study with people it isnt bad at all.

Lots of flying in Houston, and reserve is only a few months. Majority of trips are 4 day, then 3 day, then 2 day, with day trips being the smallest amount. It changes a fair amount tho season to season.

Back when I was applying (right before corona) the industry standard seemed to be 6 months. After that, you don't burn a bridge, but are expected to re-apply.

What’s the chance of getting DEN as base out of training, please? And how long the reserve gonna take over there?