Is the writing on the wall?
11-21-2023 | 05:51 PM
#21
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Pasco, WA (PSC) used to have 8 turboprop 37 seat flights per day.
They went to 6 of the 76 seat RJs.
Today they fly 4 per day, 2 of the 76 seat and 2 737-800. They are packed.
That is to SEA. They have even more seats to other locations, although they had some before.
They went to 6 of the 76 seat RJs.
Today they fly 4 per day, 2 of the 76 seat and 2 737-800. They are packed.
That is to SEA. They have even more seats to other locations, although they had some before.
11-21-2023 | 05:57 PM
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Pasco, WA (PSC) used to have 8 turboprop 37 seat flights per day.
They went to 6 of the 76 seat RJs.
Today they fly 4 per day, 2 of the 76 seat and 2 737-800. They are packed.
That is to SEA. They have even more seats to other locations, although they had some before.
They went to 6 of the 76 seat RJs.
Today they fly 4 per day, 2 of the 76 seat and 2 737-800. They are packed.
That is to SEA. They have even more seats to other locations, although they had some before.
11-21-2023 | 08:17 PM
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DSM, what a perfect place to use.
Have AA pull down the 3 CRJ flights a day, and replace it with one mainline flight to cover the 150 seats. Then watch AA start to lose marketshare to UA who is willing to offer more trips to Chicago. People don't have to live with anything when another carrier can pick up the slack.
Have AA pull down the 3 CRJ flights a day, and replace it with one mainline flight to cover the 150 seats. Then watch AA start to lose marketshare to UA who is willing to offer more trips to Chicago. People don't have to live with anything when another carrier can pick up the slack.
Since ~20% of United's 175s are parked somewhere for lack of crews I suggest that they aren't in a position to do that. Your analysis would be different if someone had RJ crews to throw at these markets but since nobody does and won't for half a decade or so (barring a major recession) I see frequency being cut to upgage airframes.
11-21-2023 | 09:09 PM
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Does United have the lift to do that? Maybe, although there would be an opportunity cost since it would preclude the lift being deployed somewhere else.
Since ~20% of United's 175s are parked somewhere for lack of crews I suggest that they aren't in a position to do that. Your analysis would be different if someone had RJ crews to throw at these markets but since nobody does and won't for half a decade or so (barring a major recession) I see frequency being cut to upgage airframes.
Since ~20% of United's 175s are parked somewhere for lack of crews I suggest that they aren't in a position to do that. Your analysis would be different if someone had RJ crews to throw at these markets but since nobody does and won't for half a decade or so (barring a major recession) I see frequency being cut to upgage airframes.
11-22-2023 | 02:10 PM
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DSM, what a perfect place to use.
Have AA pull down the 3 CRJ flights a day, and replace it with one mainline flight to cover the 150 seats. Then watch AA start to lose marketshare to UA who is willing to offer more trips to Chicago. People don't have to live with anything when another carrier can pick up the slack.
Have AA pull down the 3 CRJ flights a day, and replace it with one mainline flight to cover the 150 seats. Then watch AA start to lose marketshare to UA who is willing to offer more trips to Chicago. People don't have to live with anything when another carrier can pick up the slack.
UA reduced frequency but increased the available seats. They also control the product and can offer premium service.
Mainline replacing RJ’s is a good thing. No you won’t see a Guppy/Bus flying to Dickinson ND but getting RJ’s back to where they belong is good for all of us and our careers
11-22-2023 | 04:34 PM
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Using your DSM-ORD example. UA runs 3 flights a day. Two of the flights are on UA and one is on UEX. Go back 5 years ago and there was no mainline UA service and 5-7 RJ’s a day to ORD.
UA reduced frequency but increased the available seats. They also control the product and can offer premium service.
Mainline replacing RJ’s is a good thing. No you won’t see a Guppy/Bus flying to Dickinson ND but getting RJ’s back to where they belong is good for all of us and our careers
UA reduced frequency but increased the available seats. They also control the product and can offer premium service.
Mainline replacing RJ’s is a good thing. No you won’t see a Guppy/Bus flying to Dickinson ND but getting RJ’s back to where they belong is good for all of us and our careers
11-22-2023 | 05:46 PM
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United controls all of its product, including UEX. I have said this before....majors are not replacing RJ's, they are putting mainline in where they belonged in the first place. United has a rich history of using RJ's in markets and on routes they had no business being on in the first place.
11-23-2023 | 11:58 AM
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United controls all of its product, including UEX. I have said this before....majors are not replacing RJ's, they are putting mainline in where they belonged in the first place. United has a rich history of using RJ's in markets and on routes they had no business being on in the first place.
The rich history you speak of is post-bankruptcy and when the UA pilots gave away scope. It was also a time when no UA CEO ever wanted to truly run an airline. Shrink to profitability was a saying heard for years.
It wasn’t till Oscar (and now Kirby) came along that they have been interested in running an airline and controlling the product.
As usual you come off like the “know it all” you happen to think you are. UA is replacing RJ’s with mainline and even your “scared” SKW won’t be immune
11-23-2023 | 01:46 PM
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You also don’t understand that pre 9/11 and bankruptcy those routes you speak of were flown by mainline.
The rich history you speak of is post-bankruptcy and when the UA pilots gave away scope. It was also a time when no UA CEO ever wanted to truly run an airline. Shrink to profitability was a saying heard for years.
It wasn’t till Oscar (and now Kirby) came along that they have been interested in running an airline and controlling the product.
As usual you come off like the “know it all” you happen to think you are. UA is replacing RJ’s with mainline and even your “scared” SKW won’t be immune
The rich history you speak of is post-bankruptcy and when the UA pilots gave away scope. It was also a time when no UA CEO ever wanted to truly run an airline. Shrink to profitability was a saying heard for years.
It wasn’t till Oscar (and now Kirby) came along that they have been interested in running an airline and controlling the product.
As usual you come off like the “know it all” you happen to think you are. UA is replacing RJ’s with mainline and even your “scared” SKW won’t be immune
As much as you would like me to be scared, I have zero reason to be scared about anything. SkyWest could shut its doors tomorrow and all that happens is I have more free time to find something to do with.
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